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Terts 04-30-2003 09:33 PM

Dawnbringer Sain in the Temple of Lathander is supposed to ask me to retrieve a ring for him. But, when I go to talk to him, he just wants to kill me. Guardian Telwyn keeps telling me to go talk to him and do whatever he says. But, he still just wants to kill me. What is going on. Has this happened before.

Dundee Slaytern 04-30-2003 09:47 PM

Did you happen to steal something from their temple recently? Say... for Mae'Var?

Gangrell 04-30-2003 11:01 PM

Most likely if you have an evil character, you've had to steal a trinket from his temple before. If you have, then that's most likely why he wants to kill you.

[ 04-30-2003, 11:04 PM: Message edited by: Gangrell ]

Assassin 05-01-2003 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Did you happen to steal something from their temple recently? Say... for Mae'Var?
Mae-Var wants you to steal it from the Temple of Talos...

The Lilarcor 05-01-2003 01:25 AM

No, it depends on your alignment, if your evil you go get a statuette from the other temple.

SixOfSpades 05-01-2003 03:22 AM

Terts, you have the air of one who's playing his first game of BG2 with his nose glued to a walkthrough.

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Originally posted by Terts:
Dawnbringer Sain in the Temple of Lathander is supposed to ask me to retrieve a ring for him.
....if you can't speak to him, how could you know what he's "supposed" to ask you to do? Here is my advice to you: Get rid of the dang walkthrough, and try to roleplay. It's more fun, and you're less inclined to do things like, "Hey, I think I'll rob this church and see if they've got anything good." (And if you're told to rob the church, a roleplayer would consider the situation carefully, and realize that there might be fewer people around at night-time.)

Assassin, Dundee is not infallible. Neither am I. Nobody's perfect. But when Dundee is wrong about something, we remember it for weeks. [img]smile.gif[/img]

WELCOME TO IRONWORKS, TERTS!!!
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[ 05-01-2003, 03:23 AM: Message edited by: SixOfSpades ]

Annatar 05-01-2003 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:

<center>Come and be one of us.....one of us.....one of us.....</center>
<font color=white> Six, did you recently played Fallout 1? </font>

Assassin 05-01-2003 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by The Lilarcor:
No, it depends on your alignment, if your evil you go get a statuette from the other temple.
IIRC, Lathlander is good. [img]smile.gif[/img]

*edit* What I mean is that the PC would have to be a Lathlander Cleric, and hence good, because if it were not a Cleric, then he/she would be getting the jobs from Helm.

[ 05-01-2003, 08:47 AM: Message edited by: Assassin ]

Dragonshadow 05-01-2003 08:42 AM

I thopught that you had to get something from the evil temple whatever...
What if you're neutral?
Welcome Terts

Dundee Slaytern 05-01-2003 08:51 AM

To further clarify the issue at hand, there are TWO outcomes from Mae'Var's first task.

1) He asks you to steal a necklace from the Priestess of Talos in the Temple of Talos.

2) He asks you to steal a statutte(sp?) from the Temple of Lathander. Which understandably makes them upset for ever and ever.

That is confirmed.

The other issue I am more fuzzy about, but if memory serves me well... it is not alignment, but reputation that determines which quest you do.

Alson 05-01-2003 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
2) He asks you to steal a statutte(sp?)...
Statue. ;)

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...from the Temple of Lathander. Which understandably makes them upset for ever and ever.
Hmmm... There's no way to steal the statue without turning them hostile? Are you sure?

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The other issue I am more fuzzy about, but if memory serves me well... it is not alignment, but reputation that determines which quest you do.
That is confirmed. [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Dundee Slaytern 05-01-2003 09:11 AM

Checked it, and found out the item is named, "Statuette of Lathander". Dang... missed an 'e'. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

As for the "can we avoid flipping off the PoLathander while stealing their statuette"... I have not heard of any success stories yet, mainly due to the damnable undisarmable alarm trap. :mad:

Alson 05-01-2003 09:22 AM

Statuette?! Sheesh... English and French never sounded more similar! :rolleyes:

Dundee Slaytern 05-01-2003 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by Alson:
Statuette?! Sheesh... English and French never sounded more similar! :rolleyes:
Actually, they are both English and they have different meanings, or rather, different usages.
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statue noun [C]
an object made from a hard material, especially stone or metal, to look like a person or animal:
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statuette noun [C]
a statue which is small enough to stand on a table or shelf
To say that it is a statue is correct, but if you say that it is a statuette, you are informing the person that it is a small figurine, and thus, convey much more accurate information about the object.

Morgeruat 05-01-2003 10:02 AM

ahh that's what the statuette I lifted from them is for (my F/T/M has very light fingers and got the quest for the talonites)

Malthaussen 05-01-2003 10:20 AM

I can confirm that it is reputation, not alignment, that determines the target Mae'Var sends you for, as my LG paladin (rep. of 9) was told to rip off the Lathendites.

-- Mal

[ 05-01-2003, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: Malthaussen ]

Annatar 05-01-2003 10:27 AM

<font color=white> Aren't the Talos followers known as Tallassans? and Lathander followers Lathanders... [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] ? (I base this on nothing but... I recall something that I saw a few months ago) </font>

Butterfingers 05-01-2003 10:35 AM

I have been able to steal from the Lathanderites and not have them eternally angry at me. The secret is... Well, I wont tell you the secret cause then it would no longer be a secret!

If you are going to rob thieves, you send in a thief. If you are going to rob clerics... Well, like deals with like.

Dundee Slaytern 05-01-2003 12:14 PM

? You do not happen to mean Sanctuary do you? Last I recall, somebody did try to use that tactic but the Priests still got mad at him... ...

Jatelka 05-01-2003 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Butterfingers:
I have been able to steal from the Lathanderites and not have them eternally angry at me. The secret is... Well, I wont tell you the secret cause then it would no longer be a secret!

If you are going to rob thieves, you send in a thief. If you are going to rob clerics... Well, like deals with like.

I too managed to get the stauette of lathander without turning them hostile (I know coz it's still in my sack at the Copper Coronet), unfortunately I can't add anything clever, coz I have no recollection of how I actually achieved it. I DON'T think it was related to sanctuary.

Vedran 05-01-2003 05:03 PM

Lathanderites, Talassans, Helmites.

LennonCook 05-02-2003 07:27 AM

<span style="color: lightblue">How about Feebleminding all of them, and dispelling it once you`re done (so they know what to say when you talk to them) ??

[ 05-02-2003, 07:28 AM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

sorab 05-02-2003 10:03 AM

Just kil em all no dead man can keep hard feeling about stealing his statue....or stattute or what ever...

Russ 05-02-2003 11:28 AM

Wow, you guys get so complicated... try keeping your party out of the temple, and sending in your thief alone to do the job... of course, mine at the time was Jan, and he used a combination of improv.invis and knock...

Xero279 05-02-2003 11:42 AM

Meh, ive never had luck stealing from the temple of Lathandar without getting caught. it usually doesnt matter, unless you happen to be a priest of lathandar or a good aligned cleric in need of a stronghold ;)

Anyone know what mae'var will make you do if you fit into the rep category to get the stauette from Lathandar's temple, but you are a priest of Lathandar? that would really suck... [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]


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