I have always played through the game with a party, so I was never desperate for this bag and I can't remember where it is found. I am currently soloing and am in desperate need. Can anyone help?

Thanks

Bodhi's Gauntlet in Spellhold in the room with the clay golem, you'll find the bag of holding.

Thank you very much.

(To be more specific, when you first enter the gauntlet, take the stairs to your right and then enter the room infront of you. In there is the bag of holding.)

Just have to defeat the Clay Golem, which is not too easy since its immunities [img]smile.gif[/img]

<font color=white> If I'm soloing most of the time I CLUA in a bag of holding because I'm getting sick of the tiny inventory space I got.
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Tsk, tsk, it is supposed to be part of the solo challenge, Annatar. ;)

ADD] About the only time I complained about inventory space was when I soloed with an Archer. Cernd's House in Waukeen Promenade held enough arrows to supply an army of thousands. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Ah... I remember the days of travelling back and forth to resupply my stock of arrows. Tedious, but I accepted it as part of the challenge. Tansheron Bow was a sanity-saver.

[ 04-15-2003, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Heh, dont worry Annatar! im with you! I had to CLUA one in one time, then when i found that one in spellhold it got glitched and they were both linked, so when i put something in one i could take it out of the other :D pretty cool.. though i dont use CLUA anymore. [img]smile.gif[/img] no cheating unles the game cheats me.

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Ehh, nothin korgan cant handle with that good ole' hammer found in the golem room from Nalias Keep ;)

Indeed [img]smile.gif[/img] It was a bit harder for my sorc tho... But some Lower-Resistances later everything settled down [img]smile.gif[/img]

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If you have ToB installed, doesn't Watchers Keep (or is it Watchers Tower) have one? i havn't been in there in a long time, so i forget. But Watchers Keep is accesible earlier than Spellhold, so i thought i'd suggest.

There is one in ToB but i dot think in watchers keep.

I do that all the time in solo games. If I wanted to play "Baldur's Gate 2 : The Quest for Shuffling", I would've bought it, instead. ;) SUUURE... I can do the "Storing Space->Store->Storing Spce->Store->etc" routine... but why bother? It gives me no extra power whatsoever - but it saves human time, which is finite, and is a pity to waste. ;)

I guess the purists will call it cheating... so I have a question for them. How may of you have installed the "convinience components" from Ease-of-Use? ;) Is it really that different?

No EoU, no CLUAd bag, solo sorc on insane with tactics. No item-upgrade either, which Im starting to think may have been a bad move.

And I'm not having a problem with inventory space. I'm naturaly reluctant to use potions and scrolls, to the point where normaly I just leave them with the corpses. I know Ill never use them, so why waste slots? Exception for healing potions of course. Wands, grab and burn up. Quest items, use and discard. Loot can be a problem of course, but I only take the best pieces. Im a soloist, most of the equipment I want isn't for sale, what do I need money for?

I do that all the time in solo games. If I wanted to play "Baldur's Gate 2 : The Quest for Shuffling", I would've bought it, instead. ;) SUUURE... I can do the "Storing Space->Store->Storing Spce->Store->etc" routine... but why bother? It gives me no extra power whatsoever - but it saves human time, which is finite, and is a pity to waste. ;)

I guess the purists will call it cheating... so I have a question for them. How may of you have installed the "convinience components" from Ease-of-Use? ;) Is it really that different?</font>[/QUOTE]Remember Alson, it's only cheating if..if... nah, it's never cheating ;)

<font color=white> Time for me to response :D

<font color=white> I know Dundee, but what Alson already pointed out... why hassle and spend hours and hours of your precious time changing, storing and cleaning out your inventory when you can just CLUA in a Bag of Holding and drop every quest item, worthless key, highly enchanted weapons you don't use ect..., even my mom wouldn't bother (she is a clean and tight freak [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) so why should I?

It makes my gaming much more fun (I like really REALLY hate order... I prefere chaos above all.. *poiting at room [img]smile.gif[/img] * ), and yes I to have the EoU stacking component installed (another great one!).

Cheating? Ofcorse not... I say [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

[ 04-16-2003, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

THERE IS one in Watcher Keep! i just played that through and got it. lotsa good long swords and stuff.

Wachers keep is really fun, when you play it first time you gotta think a little...Like i had to do..Iam not so smart though [img]smile.gif[/img]

I suggests you all who have ToB play it, lots of fun and Useful Stuff!

Smile with your lips..Thats what they are..(almost)

I am very very very sure there is no Bag of Holding in WK. Where did you find yours, Josephine?

Whadya mean using CLUA to spawn a bag of holding is'nt cheating? why if i could pull a bag out off my ass why not a bigger sword? tis the same thing!

There is no Bag of Holding in Watcher's Keep. With that out of the way, a mini-rant on soloing and the 'hassle' of storing items.

This argument draws heavily on the basis of roleplaying, so if roleplaying means nothing to you, then it will be highly unlikely that I can change your mind.

Jon Irenicus stripped you of all your items and scattered them to the winds. What you see, is what you get. You do not need to pick up every single item that comes your way, it is part and parcel of soloing to exercise your priorities and decide what is important and what is not.

In fact, it is a challenge to try and stuff as much value into your inventory before you depart Jon Irenicus' Dungeon. You can easily gain about 5000+ gold if you know what you are doing.

The moment you step out of the dungeon, the need for a Bag of Holding is neglible( Cernd's House, among other areas) until you set sail for Spellhold where surprise, surprise! A Bag of Holding exists.

Soloing is about hardship, and the lack of inventory space is part of that hardship. It kind of defeats the spirit of soloing if you cheat in items you should not have. Heh... in fact... if you want to truly experience raw soloing, do what I do now, no unexplainable pre-buffing. ;)

It can be done, although you might need to reload more often. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

You're quite right - your mini-rant makes a lot of sense.

Still, I have to pose a question. You installed Ease-of-Use's stacking component because, presumably, you disagreed with BioWare's rule that, for example, arrows can only be stacked up to 40. Plus, it saves you time. Now, I disagree with BioWare that my inventory can only hold up to 16 items. I can certainly imagine my 19 STR fighter carrying a bag with, say, 30 items. Is it really THAT different? ;) My answer is no.

Only if these items grant you extra power. CLUAing the SotM is an example for something that eases the hardship. ;) The Bag of Holding is merely a convinience.

Heh... I used to do it... but it's not really an option in a Solo-No-Reloads game. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I found my arrows, did you find your Bag of Holding? ;)
This is false, because the BoH can in fact increase your power indirectly. The bag itself does nothing to improve your statistics, but it enables you to carry many, many items that throws any concept of pre-planning-packing out of the window.

The player no longer needs to worry about what to carry, and what to not. That is more power to the player.
No powergaming pre-buffing and reload solo game! The ultimate test of insanity and skill! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

I may have to head to WK now. I'm 80% sure i found one there when I played it the first time.

dulouz.

There's no Bag of Holding in Watcher's Keep I don't think, though there is one you can get from Lararus in Saradush.

Where I stand on the BoH issue: I have *never* cheated myself a premature Bag. But, if I were Soloing, I definitely would. Let's face it, BG's system of Inventory handling is irreparably flawed, and I will not bend over backwards to try to adhere to it. Take, for example, a purist-roleplayer in a Solo game. If you were in the Windspear Hills, and you happened across a chest that contained 17 different types of highly valuable Potions, you would have to make two trips to sell them all. Or, you could abuse your powergaming knowledge and make an early trip to WK, for the Potion Case you know is there.

Me, I would cheat in a Bag, because I'm not going to cater to a philosophy that says two Diamonds and a Pearl take up more room than a suit of Full Plate. The Bag does not change the odds of any fight in any way--sure, I can just toss everything I find in my Bag and bring it out again when I think I'm gonna need, say, Fire Resistance, but the only thing that saves me is a trip back to my Stronghold. And that trip equals: 40 hours of game time (So What?) plus five minutes of *my* time (Annoyance). I do not play BG to be annoyed. I'm not saying you're wrong, of course, Dundee, CLUAing in a Bag is still cheating. But it seems perfectly fair to me, at least for Solo games.

Watcher's Keep does indeed contain two very nice Containers, but neither of them is a Bag of Holding.

Flaws with the inventory system go two ways. You think it's unreasonable that a diamond and a few pearls take more space than a full plate? I think it's somewhat unreasonable that a character should be able to run around at normal speed while carrying 17 Full Plates :D The system might give you a few unrealistic and illogical limitations, but they pale in comparison to the advantages it gives you.

I'm with Dundee, inventory management is just yet another aspect of the game. Knowing what to carry with you to make the most doe at the next stop at a merchant is surely a minor challenge in itself :D I know it doesn't affect the difficulty of the fights in any way, but the game is IMHO not all about the fights.

Btw, a NRS game without pre-knowledge? Sheer luck and stubborness that knows no boundaries would be what counts there I reckon :D Skill alone simply cannot save one from the dire situations those sort of conditions would create.

[ 04-17-2003, 04:06 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]

But, let's say you found 19 stacks of 40 Arrows - how exactly do you reconcile the fact that your character is carrying 760 arrows, if we're talking realism here? That's not even getting into the idea of carrying 17 suits of armor... [img]smile.gif[/img]

I understand this, but you might as well say that having 16 backpack slots is also an indirect increase in power, since you could carry around, say, 4 suits of armor for the right occasion plus 7 Swords for just the right opponent with a few Shields, just in case.

If Encumbrance was based not just on weight & slots but also on, well, encumbrance, then I'd probably agree with you (if, e.g., a suit of Splint Mail added weight AND took up 3 slots). But as long as 3 Notes, a Red Piece of Cloth, & a Harper Amulet takes as much room as 5 suits of Full Plate, any arguments based on "extra slots = extra power" is flawed.

FWIW, I tend to cheat in an early Bag of Holding in most of my games, primarily to hold notes, quest items, & Item Upgrade components, most of which combined aren't as cumbersome as 1 suit of Chainmail. I use it for anything I don't feel like running back to my Stronghold to retrieve. It's an Ease of Use that's not included in EaseOfUse, IMO.

Incidently, the ToB Bag of Holding is, I believe, bought from the Arcana Archives (although the Expanded Thief Stronghold MOD can get you an extra one, as well).

- Imrahil