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Arquendil Lorigollo 04-12-2003 10:12 PM

I'm wondering, I've started a game as a female Gnome plain Illusionist and in the main screen (not the inventory screen) she kinda looks strange in that she looks remarkably similar to Jan Jansen...complete with a hearty beard and bald head...
Is this normal or some kind of comic bug in my game?
Everything else is normal in the game, but I'm not sure if I can stand having a bald girl as my main character.
Have any of you out there seen this before?
Anything you post in response to this is appreciated, yes even strange stories about the bald bearded lady you once saw at a circus freak show, all responses are acceptable [img]smile.gif[/img]
(Please note that I have nothing against bald girls in real life and, though I wish they had hair, think that they are probably very nice peolple)

Gangrell 04-12-2003 10:33 PM

I don't think it's so much a glitch as a little miss up. I've been thinking about other things before and have clicked the male symbol of the character sex instead of female, and went ahead and created the rest of the character. You might've did the same, if not then you got one unique gnome on your hands :D

pcgiant 04-12-2003 10:39 PM

Female Gnomes do have beards, but aren't always bald. It's just a designer's choice, I guess.

Pirengle 04-12-2003 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
I don't think it's so much a glitch as a little miss up. I've been thinking about other things before and have clicked the male symbol of the character sex instead of female, and went ahead and created the rest of the character. You might've did the same, if not then you got one unique gnome on your hands :D
Nope. Woe betide your gnome or dwarven female character, because the paper doll inventory screen will show their gender as female, but their character on the map will be male. (BG1 shows both as male. Regardless, it's still weird to see the character you know you rolled as a female walking about Athkatla complete with mustache and codpiece.)

Lemmy 04-13-2003 12:35 AM

There's a very funny conversation you can have with a Dwarf in IWD about this very topic. (Well, it's with respect to Dwarves, but Gnomes are close enough.) She's in the inn where the party starts off. Check it out if you have IWD. [img]smile.gif[/img]

-Lem

Gangrell 04-13-2003 12:40 AM

*Remembers a line from the D&D Movie*

"The problem with elves is that they ain't got no meat on their bones, what you need a nice 250 lb. dwarf with a beard you really can hang onto!"

Another reason why dwarven and gnomish women have facial hair I guess [img]tongue.gif[/img]

D*Ranged 04-13-2003 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lemmy:
There's a very funny conversation you can have with a Dwarf in IWD about this very topic. (Well, it's with respect to Dwarves, but Gnomes are close enough.) She's in the inn where the party starts off. Check it out if you have IWD. [img]smile.gif[/img]

-Lem

LOL!! [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img]
I still remember that conversation (just vaguely :D ) back when I had IWD!!! [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img]
Ahh, the nostalgia...

Gnomish female illusionists? Looked JUST like males in BG1...but I sorta expected it to be different in BG2...never tried female gnome, never will now. Can't stand their paper doll, and this made it worse...

Annatar 04-13-2003 06:10 AM

<font color=white> Someone should make a paperdoll-change mod for those gnomes, the same for the female dwarfs among the Fearun.

Anybody willing to do this...? [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] </font>

Pirengle 04-13-2003 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Annatar:
<font color=white> Someone should make a paperdoll-change mod for those gnomes, the same for the female dwarfs among the Fearun.

Anybody willing to do this...? [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] </font>

Nothing's wrong with the paper doll--that is, the paper doll's the correct gender. It's the onscreen avatar that's cross-dressing.

Annatar 04-13-2003 01:24 PM

<font color=white> This shows again how much I dislike small races [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

Gangrell 04-13-2003 01:59 PM

Why is it that smaller races have more body hair anyway? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

Jatelka 04-13-2003 02:28 PM

LOL! Think it was on SOS' (excellent) site:

"You don't want to be wandering round the Sword Coast with gender issues!"

[ 04-13-2003, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: Jatelka ]

Pirengle 04-13-2003 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Annatar:
<font color=white> This shows again how much I dislike small races [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>
If you can put aside the fact that the females look like males onscreen, the small races have great benefits. Dwarves and halflings get bonuses to their saving throws. A halfling can get 19 dexterity, same as an elf, while a dwarf can get 19 constitution.

I'm playing a party with a halfling kensai near the lead. Gesherei isn't the party leader, but she can do without much gear what Gideon the undead hunter party leader can do decked-out in full armor. His AC is lower, but her saving throws are lower. And her kensai stun abilities have saved his sorry hide countless times, mostly when he failed his save and stood there like a ninny while the enemies used him for target practice.

Annatar 04-13-2003 04:34 PM

<font color=white> I'm aware of the benefits of the smaller races, Pirengle the BNM.

I used a half-ling swashbuckler several months ago, and I was amazed by her skill and saving throws.. still I prefer to play with a elf or human, just because I'm not a fan of smaller people in BG I & II.

I can't imagine a gnome with a two-handed sword for instance or a halberd that is even big for a grown man.

Its just my play style, smaller races don't fit in with my playing style.. thats it.. ;) </font>

Lemmy 04-13-2003 06:20 PM

Its just my play style, smaller races don't fit in with my playing style.. thats it...

To arms, fellow Gnomes, Halflings, and Dwarves! He shall take back that heresy or his kneecaps are ours, for there is no kneecap we cannot conquer! Although on Giants we must settle for ankles; and only a toe-knuckle on Dragons. And I'm not entirely certain how far we'd get versus a deity, but suffice it to say it'd be *quite* the inconvenience.

[img]smile.gif[/img]

-Lem

Annatar 04-14-2003 02:36 AM

<font color=white> All lesser beings will crumble before me, so give it your best shot midgets :D !!

Nice Lemmy... ;) </font>

SixOfSpades 04-14-2003 07:51 PM

Speaking of the Paperdoll vs. Avatar discrepancy, my current PC uses the Male Dwarven Mage avatar. His paperdoll looks rather like Korgan in a Mage Robe (Things You Never Thought You'd See, #378), but his animation looks exactly like Jan Jansen. A pity, that.

In defense of the smaller races: ToB Spoilers
<font color=44341d>My favorite method for dealing with the Fire Giants is Backstabbing. Trust me, you've never seen funny until you've seen a 30-foot-tall Fire Giant, running for his life in a blind panic, being chased around and around a pillar by a Gnome. Oh, and they're both Hasted.</font>

Morgeruat 04-15-2003 08:52 AM

another note about the wee folk is that they all get great saving throw bonuses, dwarves get them to poison, rod/staff/wand and spell, gnomes get them to r/s/w and spell, and halflings IIRC get poison and spell bonuses.

Indemaijinj 04-15-2003 09:09 AM

I've always dreamt of making a mod that gave female dwarwes and gnomes their missing avatars, but someone said it was impossible.

The female gnomish illusionist case is a travesty!


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