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Timber Loftis 02-23-2003 04:28 PM

Okay, I've got the all-strongholds patch, but I'm a Mage anyway. Just finished planar sphere and took Lavok outside. Same dialogue as always - nothing new. Looted the Ring of Acuity as normal. Went back inside and the place is empty. Except for the Solamnic Knights, and they left after I spoke w/ them.

What give? Did I fail to do something? I want my stronghold. :(

daan 02-23-2003 04:34 PM

Hmmm, the solamnic knights should be talking to you in a cut-scene type thing and then return to their little room. After that our spiffy contact Teos should be dimension dooring in ...

If this didnt happen and are all patched up, I cant think of nothing else but the fact that you chose the wrong dialogue-option. It is possible to turn down the stronghold .. are you sure you accepted it ?

No matter what,.. as I cant say -install the latest patch- .. I think its reload time [img]smile.gif[/img]

Dar'tanian 02-23-2003 04:43 PM

You talk to teos as soon as you re enter the planarsphere the screen gets taken ot of your control and he talks to you.
Maybe it is because
A) you dont have a magic license
or
B) you havent talked to the coweld wizard in the governmet district that sends you out on the hunt for valgar, which means you just found him on your own or you never talked to them after catching valgar even if you were gonna keep him to get nto the planr sphere you should still talk to them first.

daan 02-23-2003 04:49 PM

Both of those shouldnt be a problem though ...

The magic license isnt related in any way .. with or without Teos will appear.
Slightly different dialogue, that's all.

And its also possible to get into the planar sphere without ever even talking to the cowles in the government district.

Sorry that this doesnt help :(

Timber Loftis 02-23-2003 04:53 PM

Actually, I took Tolgeiras up on his offer to slay Valygar. Then I met Valygar who changed my mind, even though I'm LN (hey, this *is* RP after all), and I returned and told Tolgeiras to pound sand. He said "I'll get you for this" etc. etc.

I had to kill Tolgeiras and a buddy on my way to reactivate the Sphere and make the last jump in fact.

So, did I just choose the wrong dialogue??? I buzzed through pretty fast. :(

Dar'tanian 02-23-2003 04:53 PM

Yea i know its possible to get in but it might not be possible to get the strong hold quest.

Dar'tanian 02-23-2003 04:57 PM

Did u get the heart from the demon im not sure but that cold have something to do with it i never got to finish the stronghold cause my game got erased!!

It probably doesnt have anthingt do with it though.

Timber Loftis 02-23-2003 05:19 PM

I finished the Sphere. YOu can't finish without the T'anari heart, as it's needed to power up the power core. All of which I've done.

Dar'tanian 02-23-2003 05:23 PM

yes,but im talking about finishing the stronghold quests not the sphere everyones finished that.

Annatar 02-23-2003 05:24 PM

<font color=white>Did you loaded a savegame file, so you could check you didn't do anything wrong (like picking the wrong dialog sentence..?)

Do you have any other mods installed. (TDD,SoS,WeiDU's?) </font>

Dar'tanian 02-23-2003 05:26 PM

BUt then you would have to use it and it leaves your back pack so i just make no sense at all. BUt what happened to me was i ended up facing the demon about 5 times cause my game was bugged. so i had many heats my bad a forgot about that.

Annatar 02-23-2003 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dar'tanian:
yes,but im talking about finishing the stronghold quests not the sphere everyones finished that.
<font color=white>You cannot take Lavok out-side untill you have done all the Quests in the Planar Sphere, you need the Tanar'ri's heart for fuel (the planar sphere engine). So that has nothing to do with the bug that Timber Loftis is getting. </font>

Annatar 02-23-2003 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dar'tanian:
BUt then you would have to use it and it leaves your back pack so i just make no sense at all. BUt what happened to me was i ended up facing the demon about 5 times cause my game was bugged. so i had many heats my bad a forgot about that.
<font color=white>In the planar world you enter when the Planar Sphere is travelling (hell like world), you encounter not one Tanar'ri but several Demon Deity's.

Your game is not bugged, it is normal that there are several Demons in the planar world.

The WeiDU Improved Items mod. uses the hearts you can get from all those Demons to make powerfull weapons out of it. </font>

[ 02-23-2003, 05:38 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

Dar'tanian 02-23-2003 05:49 PM

Is it still not a bugg if they are all called Tanar'ri??

Annatar 02-23-2003 06:01 PM

<font color=white> Tanar'ri's are a Demon Deity... there are several kind of Demon Deity's like Balors and Mariliths.

IIRC, there are Tana'ri's and Balors in the Planar world. </font>

[ 02-23-2003, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

Eternal 02-23-2003 06:06 PM

alla you guys are goin on about did u get the heart did u do this.

he ended the sphere part its his, he took lavok outside, and lavok gave the sphere to him.
it aint about any dialog.

then when he returns to his newly aquired sphere he should meet up with the cowled wizard teos. and the solamnic knights will ''THANK YOU OH MIGHTY HOLDER OF THE SPHERE'' and blah.
etc etc, from what i gather this hasnt happened . so hes experiencing a bug.
i have no ideas how to fix this, im not fammiliar w/ all the mods outthere.

exept for asking if he has the official patch and baldur fixpack installed (in that order)
just my 2cents

|EDIT| as annatar already pointed out it appears , damn those dutchies |EDIT|

[ 02-23-2003, 06:07 PM: Message edited by: Eternal ]

Timber Loftis 02-23-2003 06:12 PM

So you're saying it's NOT a dialogue problem?? Because I can reload and re-do the dialogue with Lavok no problem.

For my information: is it true that I can get better items if I reload and go kill more than one demon?? Because I only axed one up, not really seeing the need to go traipsing all about the planes on a killing spree.

Just so I know: where can I meet this Teos character (inside the sphere if I succeed I mean)??

[edit]Oh, I have official patches, baldurdash, ease-of-use (only a few like item stacking and rings add to any armor), and all strongholds. That's all, I think. My game is ToB (properly patched, of course).

[ 02-23-2003, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Annatar 02-23-2003 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eternal:

|EDIT| as annatar already pointed out it appears , damn those dutchies |EDIT|

<font color=white> I feel what you feel Eternal ;) ...

And okay I'll quite with the Tanar'ri busniss... but just helping a fellow IW member (Dar'tanian) with his problems.

Hehehe Timber Loftis sure does take awhile to respond :D ...just said to him in cloudy's cafe to get his but right over here... but still no sign of Timber :( .

[add] Aaah damn there he is... :D </font>

[ 02-23-2003, 06:13 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

Annatar 02-23-2003 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
So you're saying it's NOT a dialogue problem?? Because I can reload and re-do the dialogue with Lavok no problem.

For my information: is it true that I can get better items if I reload and go kill more than one demon?? Because I only axed one up, not really seeing the need to go traipsing all about the planes on a killing spree.

Just so I know: where can I meet this Teos character (inside the sphere if I succeed I mean)??

<font color=white> First of all try to load up a savegame file before the end talk with Lavok, and see if you get the option to get the Planar Sphere (he says something like ''I feel you have the same power'')

About the Demon hearts, if have the Improved Item Mod. (WeiDU) you can use demon hearts to upgrade surtain Items.

When you enter the Planar Sphere after talking to Lavok Teos will Dimension door in IIRC, when you walk in the first room of the Planar Sphere he will initiate dialog with you... this should trigger the Mage Stronghold Quests... </font>

[ 02-23-2003, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

Timber Loftis 02-23-2003 06:20 PM

Well, looks like I'm going to try a reload and see what happens.

On a more advanced note: what global variables could be screwy? If anyone knows, I'll use Shadowkeeper to check em and fix em.

Annatar 02-23-2003 06:27 PM

<font color=white>The Global Variable's should look like this:

</font>
  • Lavokdead 1</font>
  • Lavokoutside 1</font>
  • Lavokspawn 1</font>
  • Talk with Teos is by me 1... but I have already talked to him.. set it on 1 to try it out.</font>
<font color=white>Hope this works, edit them with SK and tell us how it goes.. ;) </font>

[ 02-23-2003, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

Timber Loftis 02-23-2003 06:30 PM

Final question. What's the global variable regarding the strongholds? Cause if it's a bug in the "all strongholds" mod, I could, IIRC, edit it to say I don't have a stronghold yet (when in fact I have two, maybe three, dunno, I tried to say no to the ranger cabin, but we'll see).

Annatar 02-23-2003 06:42 PM

<font color=white>Hmmm I don't know the Stronghold variable's... if sir Exxon was here he would probaly know about it.. let me search the net for it... just wait a minute.. ;) </font>

Annatar 02-23-2003 06:50 PM

<font color=white>I found the CLUAConsole command to CLUA Teos in the game for you...

CLUAConsole:CreateCreature("MGTEOS01")

This should do the trick... enter the Planar Sphere and use the Console to CLUA Teos in the game, then he will start the dialog with you.

Also you could use SK to set ''METTEOS'' to 1... this should also do the trick.
</font>

Timber Loftis 02-23-2003 07:04 PM

Wow, Annatar, thanks for all the help. That goes for the rest of youz guyz as well. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

LennonCook 02-24-2003 03:58 AM

<font color="lightblue">You have to wait 24 hours before Teos spawns... you talk to him, and *then* to the Solamic knights once you own the sphere. </font>

[ 02-24-2003, 03:58 AM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

Timber Loftis 02-24-2003 11:31 AM

THE FIX = Re-Install "all strongholds" patch. Thanks to all who helped.

Well, I walked right in after saving/killing Lavok and Teos was there. He told me they'd need my help from time-to-time, then left. (I was a bit rude but didn't refuse).

Will the stronghold quest come my way now? I explored the sphere and found nothing else. Except that the Knights need help - which I'm in the middle of doing (9000 GP is a lot).

Don't I get minions at some point? I've always wanted minions.

Annatar 02-24-2003 11:52 AM

<font color=white> You will get, Spoilers:
*<font color="#3D2F1B"> Apprentice's: Morul, Larz, and Nara... Teos will Dimension Door in when you finished the Solamnic Knights Quest, saying you done a fine job and there are some ''kids'' that are in need of Tutoring, something like that IIRC. </font>* </font>

[ 02-24-2003, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

Eternal 02-24-2003 12:31 PM

Quote:

And okay I'll quite with the Tanar'ri busniss... but just helping a fellow IW member (Dar'tanian) with his problems.
ain nothin wrong w/ that man.... i was jus pointin out he finished the sphere part of the quest,as he clearly stated... so people could stop endlessly asking him if he found the heart , killed the tanari , killed the demon or went to the hell dimension.
as he obviously did that.

anyway tim's all good now... sooooo
i guess il roll out.


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