...what is tEh best?

1. Chainmail Bikinis

2. Form fitting platemails.

3. Tight leather outfits.

my opinion - chainmail bikinis - but im a medieval perv!

You put them in good order there.

am i really the only one that isnt following here.......

Chainmail Bikini = see thru

No contest, man.

i have to agree with mr loftis, chain mail bikinis are teh hotness, but tight leather outfits are in CLOSE contention, IMHO

Sigh. Most of you will not know what I am talking about. But that's ok.

Zara the Drow. She was featured in Dragon Magazine's Dungeon Pinups. She is a Drow Mage who wore nothing but spiderwebs.

Ah, a nice dark woman, sulty, mysterious, and wearing nothing but spiderwebs. Could anything be better?

Yes, a man wearing only chain-mail underpants. Ah, the tightness and just a lil bit of-oops, am I disgusting you?
Oh dear. What a pity.

Hey hey hey, no need to bring up bad memories!

I had my scrotum bruised and pinched because of ill fitting field plate. The codpiece and the coiteirer can be quite dangerous. Please, for the love of all things kind and wholesome, leave the male anotomy out of this!

At least for a woman, there is nothing in that area dangling out to have pinched. You all are lucky.

ROFL. I have some pics I should send your way. [img]graemlins/kidding.gif[/img]

Besides, the... um, "coldness" of the underpants would work to "minimalize" the advertized package, no? :D :D :D :D

Nope, not really. If the females have to play sex objects the males bloody well should too.

Actually I had this wicked idea about a Chainmail Bikini mod that would change all the character avatars to scantily clad improbabilies.

Besides, wouldn't we all like to see Minsc in a Tarzan outfit?

[ 02-03-2003, 06:13 PM: Message edited by: Indemaijinj ]

Would bring new meaning to:
"Ooooh, Boo is getting squirrely."
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Maybe I'm odd, but I say number 2. The paladin in NWN was just way too hot for her own good.

LOOK BOO! NUTS!

Now that's what *I'd* call a bad case of Armor Chafe....good thing Aerie knows what to do with that salve! :D

Butterfingers, I must officially Wing Buffet you across the room and curse you with the Calimshite Itch and the Amnian Amorous Affliction for making me laugh so hard.

Personally, I'm for form-fitting platemail (with padding inside, of course), although leather has its merits too. Bascially, I'm dead-set against every Boris Vallejo female I've ever seen, and then there are depictions where the woman is only HALF armored--such as the "Knight of the Rose" avatar on our very own Ironworks forum. I've also seen a woman wearing full chainmail--except for the 12-inch wide, round hole in her armor, right in the middle of her chest. But it was okay, see, because she had made a little sign, "Please don't shoot me here."

I am never comfortable having my female characters dressed skimpily. It just does not make sense. I rather have my ladies fully decked out in sturdy metal armour and brandishing swords and shields.

IWD1 has an excellent full-body portrait of a female Fighter clad in proper armour. BG2 has one good one too, but it only shows the face and a bit of the upper torso.

Even when they are Mages or Bards, I prefer them to be dressed conservatively. Until I see soldiers fight in bikinis and/or underpants, I see no reason why my characters should as such.

Well, the whole 'hot D&D chick in metal bikini' mentality is the same thinking that stops people who play PNP from allowing their characters to be overweight or unattractive at all... Which is why when I play I make all my pc's realistic. Come on, do you think every bard in the world is a suave charmer? I'd say more likely all those hours playing the flute while the barbarians were out swinging swords left him with a little more gut than most player characters would like to admit to... especially in the middle ages, when baths were as frequent as the seasons changing, if you were lucky! And as far as females go, let's just say that we're lucky to have attractive character portraits to choose from in BG, cause most women who take up adventuring aren't exactly the Victoria's Secret models we have in our parties. But that's just my opinion. I'm the same guy who played a female paladin with a strength of 18/93 PNP... nothing attractive about a woman so buff she can beat Minsc at arm wrestling lemmie tell you! Not to mention it was my first female character EVER who had to buy all her own drinks hehe

[ 02-04-2003, 12:40 AM: Message edited by: 605 ]

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No mention yet of Bohdi and her stockings of blinding desire+2 or that very .... eerrm black bodice of enchantment+5

[img]graemlins/1drool.gif[/img] :D

bodhi's a vampire they have magic protections, giving them a naturally low ac.

oh come on!!
anyone who saw conan the barbarian knew he was tough just because he could go charging into battle wearing nothing but a loin cloth.
The same with women. you know lara croft kicks indiana jones any day of the week, because she can go tomb raiding and still come out looking good, while he comes out covered in spider webs, mud and rat crap... and he's *always* bleeding somewhere. I mean, what kind of hero gets beat up ?

Armour ?! pffft, who needs it ?

Well, I could understand the need for skimpy armor.

Having worn various suits of armor, platemail, scale, chainmail, wicker banded mail, etc, I think they all suck toe personally.

I have worn some great suits of plate. And some not so great as mentioned. Under all the leather, padding, chainmail, etc, all the underarmor, you sweat buckets. I mean rivers of sweat actually pour from your body. It's hot and itchy. It's like being inside a steam bath or a suana. There is NOTHING sexy about a knight in shining armor. You stink. BAD. You get helmet hair. You think wearing a 20 pound great helm will make you look attractive? Hell no. With 20 pounds of iron or steel on your noggin, you start turning into a hunchback. And with that helmet in place, you get a whiff of just how SOUR you smell. It pinches, as I have mentioned. Any woman wearing plate mail is not sexy either. They don't smell like a summer's eve or baby powder, or Channel #5 or what ever a woman usually smells like. A woman takes on the smell of a sampler platter from Captian Jacks Crab Shack left out in the sun for far to long. It's actually worse for a woman.

I don't care if you are a man or a woman. If you just got undressed from wearing full plate, you aint sexy.

Humourless girl alert!

This has what to do with SOA?
Maybe this is why the fora are so testosterone oriented (see another thread).

A whole bunch of retarded custom portraits. Go surf some of the custom portrait sites and be prepared to be astonished.

Skimpily armoured males are actually also rather common. Like the barbarians who has their arms totally covered in plates and gauntlets, but their chest and neck completely bare and their crotch only protected by a piece of fur.

The saddest thing is that all this stuff is made by established fantasy artists.

No..Comment...

I have to say, apart from Jatelka and myself, no other female posted in this thread :D
Jat, dear-time to make one about men's underpants!...Joy... :rolleyes:
How many girls post on this forum anyway? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Now that makes sense. Only if I'm an uberer do I play a roamncable NPC with a str of more than 12. It just doesn't make sense, really, you want your NPC to be attractive, you tone down strength and constitution and up charisma. (i then use Aribeth as a portrait-from NWN.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cassinus/Femmes/NADD03L.BMP

"I don't care if you are a man or a woman. If you just got undressed from wearing full plate, you aint sexy" --Butterfingers

Butters, you said it man.

P.S. I don't mean to interupt the thread, by all means carry on, but how do you quote people?

Thanks Decurion

Chainmail bikini - youch! Maybe for lounging, but adventuring? Now maybe if it had lining or somesuch, but Timber says it'd be see-through... *sighs* honestly men, lets think logistics! [img]tongue.gif[/img] Chain-link skin pinch = Bad Naked ;)

LOL Kaltia, ditto on the chainmail Y-fronts ;) . I was watching a cricket special and one guy was describing an incident with a ball into the protector... the protector had little holes and, well... the visual it created wasn't pretty :D

I have to admit, I did always like my female PCs to have attractive gear. A butch fighter in full plate wasn't up to it. Though neither were scrawny male bard/mages with weird leg attire either ;) . I loved the female mage frock from BG1, was very disappointed in the BG2 outfit. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] They wanted to look good for the menfolk; adventuring and being a bhaal-spawn is no good for your femininity after all! *hangs head* How un-feminist of me :D

Reeka is a monk; she can't wear any of that stuff. She wears......well you can see what she wears.

In addition to that, I'd say that the biggest problem would conflict completely with the reason you all want chain mail bikinis in the first place... You want it to be see-thru, but can you imagine how stinky hot that metal would get in the sun? And how insanely cold it would be once the sun went down? Before you know it, your once dreamy object of desire is sporting a not-so-sexy reverse farmer tan and maybe even a little blistery burny goodness all over her bits n'pieces. Reverse sunburned blister mama = NOT SEXY

Reeka looks good, but I dunno how effectively she'd be able to fight, ESPECIALLY being a monk, in that gear... she'd be popping out all over the place and... wait, maybe you're onto something here [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 02-05-2003, 08:47 PM: Message edited by: 605 ]

The only creatures for whom chaimail bikinis would make any sense are fire elementals.

They can't wear cloth, since it would burn up (unless it was woven from rockwool or asbestos).

They can only wear things that allows the passage of air (otherwise they will choke themselves).

I dunno... having your arms armoured is more or less like being able to carry 2 shields at once. You can protect neck and chest with your sword.

If you get shot... well, chainmail isn't going to be much help anyway.

Speaking soley from personal experience.

I HATE wearing heavy armor. I have worn plated mails, never once did I actually like doing so. You sacrifice to much for that amount of protection. If you get knocked over, you have no chance in hell of getting back to your feet by your self in the heavier plates like Gothic and Field Plate. You can't bend your arms enough to scratch your own nose hardly. It's a real pain in the ass.

Personally, I have always been fond of a studded leather jerkin or jack. It's a double layer of leather with little bits of iron or steel between the layers, riveted to hold the leather together. The weight distribution is good. It will block some arrows, deflect smaller lighter blades, and, even offers a little protection from fearsome mace blows. A little is better then none, and, you could get lucky. Cover this with a chainmail vest, no sleeves, and, a knee length chainmail skirt. Add iron plated bracers to add some protection to your arms, some greaves, and a nice sallet or a typical Norman brainpan, and, you are good to go really. You have mobility. (I was able to do cartwheels in this set up) You have decent protection. You will have to rely heavily on parrying and blocking however. Arm your self accordingly. Get a nice spear, a poleaxe, or perhaps use a shield along with an axe, mace, or flail. Use the axe for chainmail or lightly armored foes, use mace or flail for folks with heavier armor. In the battlefield, the mace and the flail were the great equilizer. You did not need to worry about piercing armor, a strong stunning blow could knock a foe over. It would also create a shockwave rippling through his armor and his body. Meaning that many of his bones would break from the sheer brutal force of the blow.

However, DO NOT PLAN ON GOING OUT ON A DATE after wearing this. You will still stink three ways to Sunday.

Also, personal side note. If you want your own suit of armor, you can make your own personal studded leather jack. You need lots of leather, enough to make two coats, either a whole bunch of pennies or high grade industrial washers, and, some kind of riveter. Rivet one leather coat, then, sew the other one over the top of it. Turn it inside out to make sure the rivet nubs are away from your skin, protruding from the leather of the coat. Make sure you have REALLY tough fingers. Also, chainmail is pretty easy to get if you know where to look. You can frequently find it at a fireplace retail and supply. Lots of fireplaces have chainmail drapes hanging down to catch sparks. You can buy whole sheets of it. Clip it to desired shape, and, hook it together with other pieces. It is commonly made of high grade 440 carbon steel, which is actually pretty darn good. Beware of chainweave, which is actually quite different from chainmail. Have fun, and, be responsible with sharp pointy objects.

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I, too, am more fond of lighter armor, simply because I prefer agressive blocking to passive. I've got a pair of leather gloves with chainmail sewn to the backs, and with these and a pair of bracers with iron bars impregnated within the leather, I'm good to go. (A mail shirt would be nice to go over the jerkin, but I'm fine with just leather.) With this gear and a staff, I can block/dodge/outrun pretty much any attack, and my own atacks have both power and range. BUT. It works great in single combat, but if I was taking part in a massive melee and trying to keep track of 3 or 4 guys at a time, I would be SO screwed. That's where personal mobility goes flying out the window, and passive blocking (plate mail) comes in.

Well, now that this has become about armor to wear rather than armor to look at, I too am fond of lighter armor.

The fighting I've done has been in light armor w/ 2 swords or 1 sword (I'm not too big on shields - I'd rather be blocking w/ a sword even though it's harder). In lighter armor I could literally tap-dance around a foe and beat on his back with ratan swords. Of course, heavily armored folks could take a LOT of my hits, and with each one from them I had one new bruise to whimper about the next day.

When I did my stint with the SCA, only Pages and Squires fought with mock weapons. Knights (People of high rank who had fought a long time) fought with REAL weapons. I guess things have changed much now, to many people are making lawsuits. The real weapons were blunted though, no sharp edges, no spikes, nothing that could prove instantly fatal.

We did real jousts and real tournies. Just like in the middle ages.

The tournies were brutal bloody afairs. Broken bones and cuts were common. We regularly went to the ER. And in classic middle ages rules, we had a last man standing policy. We did not try to kill anybody, the rules of the game were to knock out or otherwise make it so your foes could not get back up and fight.

I won 3 tournaments in the armor I described, 3 in one year. I was 2 wins away from breaking a record for most wins in a year. (Back in the 70's. I am sure the record has long since been broken) I took some real beatings in the pig pile fighting, but, I mostly relied on being tougher then a two dollar steak to get me out of the mess. Our largest gathering that year was a little over 50 people who took to the field. I was quite proud to take home the trophy that day. I had a broken wrist, many broken ribs, a hairline fracture in my jaw, and one eye was so swolen shut I sliced it open with a knife so I could see. (And it was dull.. It hurt an awful lot) It was a good year, I never did win another last man standing contest ever again.

Six, with your armor and described fighting style, you sound like you would have been a natural in the Dueling Classes. I um, actually sort of suck at that. It's a lot easier for me to take on entire hoards then take on somebody one on one.

Anyone here played Dark Alliance for Ps2?? Take the armour off of the elf. You arnt going to beet that.

I asked Viconia about wearing that and she replied that I look at her quite enough clad decently. ;)

That is why Annah wears so little in PS:T She is a tiefling, hence, fiery. http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/lordbel/annahanim.gif