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Throrgrim 11-12-2002 05:20 PM

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After the tree of life where you kill irenicus and he drags u into hell, where do i go? what do i do? r my party too weak:
Me fighter 16
Minsc Ranger 13/14
Jaheira Fighter/Druid 13/11
Aerie Cleric/Mage 12/13
Imoen thief/mage 7/13
Anomen cleric/fighter 16/7
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i know the final battle has irenicus AND two balors will i get enough experience in hell to level up?

Sythe 11-12-2002 05:29 PM

uhhh yes you would but heh these levels are kinda low yes you would level up but I suggest leveling up much more go outta suddanseler go adventuring level up come back and kick Irenicus's butt I always do that kinda tactic in my opinion I beaten the game with at least level 16 or 17

Throrgrim 11-12-2002 05:30 PM

so shall i open a save B4 i killed irenicus????

pritchke 11-12-2002 05:34 PM

As to what to do just wander to the different rooms with the stairs all your questions should be answered as what to do. It is pretty straight forward. You need to try to get that big door open and by going to the various rooms you will find yourself.

As for the final battle you should be good although I found the battle to be harder than the previous battle with him. I also had a staff of nature of some sort to summon lots, and lots, of striders. You should be OK I think some of my NPCS were slightly higher levels. What is up with Minsc? I think both Minsc and me were at level 17. But that was by completing the different rooms. Both Jaheria and Aerie were a little higher. I also had Jan and he was not so high as your Anomen. Imoen was exactly the same.

[ 11-12-2002, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

9_1_6 11-13-2002 01:35 AM

When i finished SoA, I was well over level 20.
I had ToB installed thought... I reached maximum level while i was in Underdark... that is very weird... lol

Glorfindel 11-13-2002 01:46 AM

<font color="lawngreen" face="trebuchet MS">Those levels arent IMBOSSIBLY low... but naturally it will make the battle harder [img]tongue.gif[/img] .... There are XP opportunities in hell... if you are really worried that you dont have enough and you are desperate you can fight the black dragon in the Pride test so that you get the black dragon XP and the 300000XP bonus as a reward at the eyes gate... but that does change your alignment to neutral evil (unless you have that lovely little bug I used to have [img]tongue.gif[/img] ), also the scrolls found on his body will help as well.. but again.. only recomended if your desperate or evil [img]tongue.gif[/img] .

And also there are two Balors and two Demons to fight [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

Throrgrim 11-13-2002 02:56 AM

it's ok i'll go to the following places:
sewers + mind flayer temple (never bothered doin that)
Palanar Sphere
Bridge District derelict house (open with rogue stone?)
North Forest
Forest of Tethir.
then i'll go back to sudanesslar and then kill parasites etc and kill irenicus and carry on. do u think that'll help with exp?

ps. does the tree of life in sudanesslar hav a time limit to save or no???

[ 11-13-2002, 03:00 AM: Message edited by: Throrgrim ]

Merlin Al'Thor 11-13-2002 03:08 AM

just wanted to add Irenicus was so easy!! Plenty of summons to keep him occupied and that was that.

Mahlennacht 11-13-2002 03:19 AM

Doesn't the game scale its difficulty according to the state of your party, so that you always have a chance when fighting "mandatory" enemies? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

Sythe 11-13-2002 08:11 PM

well if you don't feel like levelin up I have a easy tactic to kill Irenicus well actually it ain't easy takes several relaods

Summon monsters doesn't matter what level near the entrance cast haste on your party too and have a lotta dispels ready when you see Ireincus blah blah blah run away down south and let ur monsters get slaughtered. After a while Irenicus comes and immideatly turn into a bloody slaya and attack and with ur tanks casts breach and other spell removing spells to inflict damage and make sure he doesn't have a chance to cast his spells and if it seems like you are going to die of being slayer too long change back hopefully you will win!!!!

Hayashi 11-13-2002 10:41 PM

I would suggest loading an earlier save and leaving the Elven city & finish up whatever major quests that have yet to be done. Even if you are at the exp cap (assuming ToB is not installed), there are still some nifty items you can find by doing so. For instance, doing the Planar Sphere gets you the ring of acuity (extra spells for mages at levels 3,4 & 5 iirc).

Lord Lothar 11-13-2002 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Hayashi:
I would suggest loading an earlier save and leaving the Elven city & finish up whatever major quests that have yet to be done. Even if you are at the exp cap (assuming ToB is not installed), there are still some nifty items you can find by doing so. For instance, doing the Planar Sphere gets you the ring of acuity (extra spells for mages at levels 3,4 & 5 iirc).
<font color="cadetblue">The Ring of Acuity gives 2 lvl 2 spells, 1 lvl 3 and 4 spell.</font>

Glorfindel 11-14-2002 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Throrgrim:

ps. does the tree of life in sudanesslar hav a time limit to save or no???

<font color="lawngreen" face="trebuchet MS">If you mean do you only hve so long to save the tree of life then the answer is no... even though they say that you need to hurry nothing will happen if you spend months doing something else.

If you mean you only have a time limit to save the game the answer is still no </font>

pritchke 11-14-2002 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by Glorfindel:
<font color="lawngreen" face="trebuchet MS">
And also there are two Balors and two Demons to fight [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

And Lets not forget a room full of beholders.

SixOfSpades 11-14-2002 03:30 PM

Here's a thought: Thorgrim, what difficulty do you have the game set on? If you've got it on "Easy," the monsters do less damage, yes, but they give you less EXP, which I think is probably why your party is so low-level. My Anomen is only 2 Cleric levels below you, and all that my party did was
de'Arnise Keep
side with Shadow Thieves
get the Daystar
and then we hopped on the boat to Spellhold. We just left the Underdark.

Alson 11-14-2002 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Mahlennacht:
Doesn't the game scale its difficulty according to the state of your party, so that you always have a chance when fighting "mandatory" enemies? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]
The game adjusts the difficulty to the Player's average level in some fight, but the majority of the fights are always the same.

If the difficulty was always scaled, the game would be pretty linear, and thus, boring, don't you think? ;)

Lord Lothar 11-14-2002 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by pritchke:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Glorfindel:
<font color="lawngreen" face="trebuchet MS">
And also there are two Balors and two Demons to fight [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

And Lets not forget a room full of beholders.</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="cadetblue">Well you don't NEED to fight the beholders, you can just sneak by them to get the tear in the other tunnel.</font>

Alson 11-14-2002 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
Here's a thought: Thorgrim, what difficulty do you have the game set on? If you've got it on "Easy," the monsters do less damage, yes, but they give you less EXP, ...
No, they don't.
I just tested - killing a Beholder was worth 14000 XP on both Insane and Easy levels. ;)

That is a myth that must be broken. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Throrgrim 11-14-2002 04:51 PM

well i'm doin loads more quests again and now most of my party are above 15.
main char is 17 and so is anomen, minsc is 15, imoen is 15 on mage and i cant rmemeber the others [img]tongue.gif[/img]


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