As Misc and I stood over Conster’s lifeless body, and watched as Garrens child run crying through the doorway of the prison cell, the dumb ranger looked at me and said;
”Boo wants to know...Why did you promise Firkraag we’d be back for him?” I looked him straight in his eyes, but didn’t really find the mental connection I was searching for.
”Don’t you see we need bigger swords?” the ranger carried on.
”Are you insulting me”, Lilarcor answered and wiggled angrily in the sheath on my back. I turned around to the rest of the group.
”So who’s up for this?” I asked. Jan sat in the corner, cutting af small doll for Aerie from a turnip he had in his napsack.
”I can’t...I’m allergic” he said as my eyes fell upon him ”Okay...I’m not that allergic” he continued as he saw the anger building in me. Valygar stood up straight and stepped on step forward.
”You have my sword” he said, knowing that he probably would be the first to fall. ”erhh..and my axe” the brave ranger finished.
”Maybe we could distract him if I shapeshifted into a mosquito” Cernd suggested. I turned away in despair and the others, though reluctant, followed one by one.
”Boo is worried” I heard from a few yards back.
”My uncle Quale always used to sing this song when I felt sad” Aerie consoled the hamster.
”I’ll do it for a turnip” Jan yelled from the top of the stairs. As I reached the dungeon floor I heard someone singing in a soft and shaky voice ”I while away the hours, conferring with the flowers...”.

About five seconds later, the remains of my party laid scattered across the cold marble floor. The dragon was almost slain.
”Who’s your daddy” Lilarcor said from the firm grip of my right hand. I dragged myself back towards the stairs to catch my breath. The trail of blood I had left made me wonder if I would be able to kill the dragon without any legs. The haste potions wasn’t much use now. And in that second I heard the dark murmur of the dragon’s healing spells. I looked up and saw Boo gnawing persistantly away at Firkraag’s tail. This would clearly be the end of me...

Repeat this three times, and you know my situation. How do I defeat Firkraag? I've done it before, but don't remember how. Please give me some ideas...well...any ideas...

There´s this really easy (though boring and semi cheating) way of defeating Firkraag. Just have one person make the action talk and attack with the rest of the party. Be sure howerver that you never actually speak with Firkraag, that will make him turn red. Just have your most useless char walking back and then talking to him again. Easy, but as I said boring.

http://www.plauder-smilies.de/rotfl.gif Very nicely written! Not many people bother to write about their defeats.

Use Aerie to cast Protection from Fire and/or Resist Fire on everybody. 100%+ Resistance to Fire is nice, but 75%+ is sufficient too. This is to handle his Dragon's Breath. Potions of Fire Resistance will serve the same purpose as well.

Firkragg likes to cast Chaos as well, so cast Chaotic Commands on Minsc and Valgar. You have Lilarcor, so you are already protected. Potions of Clarity will serve the same purpose as well.

Use Aerie and Jan to conjure up some summons prior to talking to Firkragg. Try to use your best summons, then cast Resist Fear on everybody. Protection from Evil 10' Radius is an excellent spell to cast beforehand as well.

During the fight, summons stay in front of Firkragg while your melee party members stay at the back of Firkragg. Have Aerie to cast Chant and Bless on them, then either Jan or Aerie cast Haste on them, then have her and Jan cast Lower Resistance on Firkragg followed by Greater Malison and Doom. You may use offensive spells like Polymorph on him now.

Have fun, and good luck.

First of all... LOL!!! [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img]

All right, here's my 2 cents:
Have the spellcasters memorize all the breaches and spell protection removers they can, and have Cernd memorize my favorite druid (possibly THE favourite, period) spell Insect Swarm. Get him Improv. Invisible, send fodder ahead and then swarm the red lizard. Remove his protections from afar... then RUN FOR THE EYES!

(of course, I'm kind of a newbie, so other people probably will have smarter, more elaborate strategies...) [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

EDIT: Heh, not only a newbie, but also very slow. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

[ 11-06-2002, 08:19 AM: Message edited by: Amedyr ]

Great story! You should post some more in the Roleplaying forum.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I guess I have to try out some of the different tactics. Maybe my party is just too low level for the fight. I will post here if I succeed. If not, you will never hear from me again (too ashamed) [img]smile.gif[/img]

I agree with Zuvio, the RP forum could use more people with talent for writing/thinking creatively.

but back to your question, before Firkraag goes hostile have Aerie cast magic resistance, it's a blue spell so it won't turn him hostile as it sets his magic resistance to crap, then have Jan or Aerie cast lower resistance, this will leave him with a max of 10% resistance, then have Cern hit him with multiple insect swarms, while Jan and Aerie (whichever didn't cast lower resist) summon, the summons will distract him and his death spell/wing buffets letting your tanks get more hits in, have cernd Ironskin himself before the fight, same with the other buff spells (resist fire/stoneskin/bless/chant/etc)and just whail on him repeatedly the insect swarms should keep him from healing, cern (as werewolf) minsc you and Valygar should be able to take him down after this.

Thanks, maybe I'll try to write a couple of stories and post them in the RP forum. Oh...and thank for the aswer to my question [img]smile.gif[/img]

Yes definitely check it out, we could use more active RPers, and I enjoyed your story very much. Speaking of the RP forum Morgy I think you should post in LOF ;)

Personally, I think the best character to use for hunting dragons is a blade. The simple reason for this is that they can cast some of the very useful protective mage magic on themselves AND they can fight. I always wondered about these great spells like protection from magical weapons for a mage, who will rarely even be targetted by magical weapons, if you're careful. So I have the bard load up on the protective spells you need, have any priests cast their defensive spells on him (or the group), have your blade with boots of speed and dual wielding, have him do his offensive spin, and then just go to town by himself while the others sit back and watch from a safe distance. I killed Firkraag and the Shadow dragon that way. You just have to make sure your bard is high level enough so that his Thaco is low enough (the offensive spin helps).

You can defeat both dragons fairly eaisily even at low levels. I would not be going into melee with him though. Going into melee with a dragon is pure insanity.

For Firkragg before going in summon as many fire, and lesser fire elementals that you can. Cast your protective spells on your party them spread them out so if Firkragg goes after one of them just run and his mass spells are not so effective. When the battle starts have the fire, and lesser elementals engage Firkragg. Every one eles use ranged, have mages cast lower resistance, breach spells, etc. After that bombard with magic missles, acid whatever you have for offensive spells. Maybe I was a bit lucky in defeating him because Jaheria was getting 20 points of critical damage on several occasions with a simple sling.

For the Shadow dragon use a similar tactic except use holy smite (didn't try using it with Firkragg, may work the same) or whatever it is here as well it does alot of damage. If you have him chase one of your guys around everyone else should be able to finish him without him doing anything the room is large enough. He seems to have this thing for Minsc, I am thinking it is because of Boo.

I'm working on my post, also working on a couple of other threads I'm DMing, or helping to DM.

Sarles, try PMing Cyril or Larry in the LoF revisited thread, I'm sure they'd admit you to a really fun and epic story, even though there hasn't been much action yet.

[ 11-06-2002, 02:40 PM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

firkraag
FIRkragg

[FIRE][crag]

Fire elementals? Red Dragon?

Am I missing something?

Earth or air maybe, but even then there are better summons.

I dont know about facing dragons, but hasted skeleton warriors (dont know if you can cast them yet) are scary to watch. Much like 4 swordspiders grinding thru the web.

Plus their MR is great.

firkraag
FIRkragg

[FIRE][crag]

Fire elementals? Red Dragon?

Am I missing something?

Earth or air maybe, but even then there are better summons.</font>[/QUOTE]yes you are missing something. Fire elementals heal when they are hit with fire damage(ie firkragg's breath)

AH. Now thats interesting. But, woudnt they get scragged by the melee attacks? I would think so, but Ive never tried this.

Current party is in cloakwood, experimentation will take place when I finally get them all the way to Firkraag.

AH. Now thats interesting. But, woudnt they get scragged by the melee attacks? </font>[/QUOTE]Yes they would--that's the point. Fire Elementals are one of the few summons that can take his Fireball and still LAST long enough to distract him into a melee. The fact that they can't really hurt HIM is almost irrelevant in this case.

I can't believe no one has mentioned the ultimate cheese. If you really want this to be easy...

You will need a thief. A high set trap skill helps, but it can theoretically be done with 5% in set traps.

Don't talk to Firkraag, just set traps around the overgrown lizard, resting when necccessary. Eventually you'll reach a limit. Buff up a tank with fire protections, and anything to make him survive one or two hits. Talk to Firkraag, when he goes hostile he'll get hit for a ton of damage. He probably won't be dead... but traps do more damage over time! If you can survive for one or two rounds, he'll be dead as a doornail.

Actually, a just as good and quicker way of dealing damage would be to stand out of his line of sight and cast cloudkill. ;)

Lower Resistance, Greater Malison both work wonders with our friendly fire-spitting friend. ;)

You have to be within sight-range to cast lower resistance, which in turn makes him hostile, which in turn makes casting cloudkill out of his sight-range impossible.

I could be wrong, though.

OMG I JUST KILLED THE ******* BEAST. The battle lasted for like 15 min or so.
My party is still in chapter 2 and my party is like 11-13. Anyway heres my experience from the battle:
What spells I used:
Mislead(scroll)
Protection from evil 10 radius
3 Monster summoning lvl 3
2 Summon skeleton
1 Summon Spider
1 Summon air elemntal
Horn of valhalla
Efretii Bottle
2 Magic missles
2 Mirror image
A wand of lightning and a wand of frost.
Lower resistance
and a scroll of fireshield red + fire resistance, bless, strenght and chant.
I used Aerie to bombard him with lightning and frost while Jaheira summoned meatshileds.My summons were slaughtered quite often and when there was no one left or when he wing buffed all my summons into oblivion he would attack Aerie. THe mirror image dodged some of his attacks but I noticed that if you walk away from him when he is casting firebreath it tends to fail sometimes. When he was Badly injured I sent my archer and Yoshi with lightning bolts in to damage him some more. Firkraag ran after Aerie while I my archers gunned him down with arrows. When I was out of summons he was near death and I sent my fighters in. He killed Jaheira but then at last he fell [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] :D
I spent lots of time on this beast and it was the toughest fight Ive been trough so far.

You don't resist him before you cast Cloudkill, it damages him despite his resists. ;)

Really? Didn't know it bypassed MR.

Even so, its MUCH slower. Cloudkill does about 1-10 damage to creatures with decent HD, so its hardly going to kill him in one round. =P

Hence why you stay out of his sight...he doesn't really clue in ;)

That's a bug. If you've Baldurdashed your game, you'll find that this has been fixed (sadly).

Hi guys,

Thanks for the many posts. But the first time I sat down last night to battle Firkraag, I succeeded [img]smile.gif[/img]

My main character is an Undead Hunter (level 10) and the rest of the party is approx. the same level.

In short, the battle went like this:
1 Resist Fear
1 Chant
1 defensive harmony
Lots and lots of Fire resistance
4 Fireelementals (from staff of fire...nice little tool)
1 Skeleton (god knows why)
3 Summen insects
2 Lower resistance
2 Spellthrust
2 Minor spellsequencer (with dual magic missiles)
1 Magic missile
Valygar ended the battle dealing an extreme slashing damage of 1 hp [img]smile.gif[/img]

No one died (except the dragon of course) and it lasted about 2 minutes...changing tactics really can make a lot of difference [img]smile.gif[/img]

I'm working on my post, also working on a couple of other threads I'm DMing, or helping to DM.

Sarles, try PMing Cyril or Larry in the LoF revisited thread, I'm sure they'd admit you to a really fun and epic story, even though there hasn't been much action yet.</font>[/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words. But I'm way lost here. What is Morgy, DMing, PMing, LOF and active Rpers??? Please elaborate [img]smile.gif[/img]

Last time I payed through SoA + ToB, I figured I do ALL the sidequests and all the "personal" quests of the NPC's, before I move on. So I quested and quested and gained levels, and somehow always missed Firkraag. And at one moment I suddenly recalled it! DOH! So I went there...

Just that after SO MANY levels it was not so hard at all, heh.. Was overkill with a full party, so I did what I have not done before - my paladin went to him solo. Words were spoken and emotions fly high and then we came to blows. CS and after it GWW and red worm was biting the dust. It frankly ended before I could even "get into the mood". Whoops. So, eh, go to the ole Firkraag sooner, it's much more fun that way, don't go for the overkill as I did this time...

Be nice, it's always worked for me... then again, going into single combat with a dragon isn't exactly what you'd call "sane" behavoiur... 'specially for a lvl 18 ranger... then again, with racial enemy set to dragon and dragonslaying equipment... lol,

btw Sarles Congrats on your victory over the red beast btw. ;) make a suit of armour outa the scales [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Morgy = Morgeruat
DMing = Dungeon Master(ing)
PMing = Private Messaging
LOF = ?
RPers = RolePlayers

Congratulations on a job well done too. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Morgy = Morgeruat
DMing = Dungeon Master(ing)
PMing = Private Messaging
LOF = ?
RPers = RolePlayers

Congratulations on a job well done too. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]LOF is a thread going in the RP (role playing) forum short for Lord of the forums, originally a take off of the Lord of the Rings

Morgy = Morgeruat
DMing = Dungeon Master(ing)
PMing = Private Messaging
LOF = ?
RPers = RolePlayers

Congratulations on a job well done too. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]LOF is a thread going in the RP (role playing) forum short for Lord of the forums, originally a take off of the Lord of the Rings</font>[/QUOTE]Thanks. Will take a look there soon [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sorry Pritchke, but that's the way the "real" men do it, heheh :D

Personally I like having my limbs attached and being alive. I was at level 10 when I decided to take on the dragons. I did try to melee without any summons and it was not pretty. The next time I only went into melee when his status was almost dead.

Ditto
ANd he still almsot slaughtered my fighters..

Heres what I always due, I postition my party around him (circular), have my thief lay down their traps, cast spell protectionsm conjure some stuff, use dragon equipment and then attack him. This way if he knocks the people in front of him unconscience, he has to worry about the ones behind him and to his sides before he worries about his fireball attack, so usually for me, he almost never uses it.

Also, would it be posible to get stoned off the potion bottles?
And if your a ranger, or a Druid, wouldn't you be particularly offended about the littering of the potion bottles?

What exactly are the stats of Firkraags Wing Buffet attack?