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Sir Goulum 02-29-2012 02:28 PM
HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/29/re...-franchise-pr/

Quote:
What's going on at BaldursGate.com? We're not 100 percent sure, honestly, but it sure looks like a teaser site for some form of new entry in the BioWare franchise. And Game Banshee seems to know more, claiming to have solidified news that the site was put together by former BioWare designer Trent Oster and his cohorts at Beamdog. "We're not related to the Steam Complete Edition," Oster said, referring to a recently discovered Baldur's Gate Complete Edition. "I can tell you that much. Other than that, we're hoping to announce something soon."

What that "something" is remains to be seen, but from the various Baldur's Gate accoutrement on the teaser site, it sure looks like a Baldur's Gate something is in the works over at Beamdog. Considering that Beamdog handled the HD port of BioWare's MDK 2, it stands to reason that an HD port of Baldur's Gate could be in the works. Regardless, we've yet to find out for sure.
I know that gave me an excited face. :)

Ziroc 02-29-2012 02:46 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
That would be awesome if it was done right.. I'd love to replay BG1 and 2 in HD... ah, the memories... NO to steam though.. that is crap.. a waste of ram.

wellard 02-29-2012 02:49 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Not sure what 'steam' is in the context of this thread but BG in HD ..... I would love it!

Ziroc 02-29-2012 02:51 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Hey, they checked that web page's source-code, and found a hidden poem:


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An adorable little poem was also found in the site's source code, which we've dropped after the break. And hey, do us a quick solid -- if you're way into the Baldur's Gate franchise and spot something especially notable on that site, don't hesitate to shoot us a note.

"Shadowy Figure- Raise Dead : Infinity Engine
For years, I clung to the memory of it. Then the memory of the memory.
And then... it returned. Better than it was before.
Pore over the tapestries and works of art hanging from our walls if you wish, Child of Bhaal... perhaps you will find a clue. But patience, ah... patience would reveal it all.
As the silver moon waxes and wanes, so too does life."
-----------------

Muhahaha it gives me goosebumps.. hehehe..

Ziroc 02-29-2012 02:57 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
They just changed the code and added:

"Take heart fellow adventurers, for you have curried the favor of Boo, the only miniature giant space hamster in the Realm!"

LOL!!!! Awesome.

Chewbacca 03-01-2012 02:13 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
LOL awesome!

Azred 03-01-2012 12:50 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
New code at the bottom: "I can teach you how to use your wrath".

I had only recently discovered GemRB but I have been relying on IESDP (Infinity Engine Structures Description Project) for quite some time.

It was only a year-and-a-half ago when Noty first got interested in IWD2 and played it through (including discovering that one of the premade parties cannot finish the game as designed!), moved on to Neverwinter Nights, and then to SoA/ToB. Her interest got me interested in them again (I still have only a little of ToB to finish).

ZFR 03-01-2012 02:13 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1248197)
(including discovering that one of the premade parties cannot finish the game as designed!),
Could you elaborate on this? I don't remeber ever coming across it/

Azred 03-01-2012 02:16 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
One of the premade parties for IWD2 is comprised of all females--a drow, a svirneblin, a half-orc, two gnomes, and a half-elf. In Dragon's Eye, there is one point where you have had to create a sabotaged histachii brew to enter a room and trip the switch that will open the final room on the level. This potion is usable only by humans--the premade party has none, making the game impossible to finish.

ZFR 03-01-2012 05:59 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Thanks. You learn something new every day (and I thought I knew everything there is to know about IE games).

Micah Foehammer 03-02-2012 09:33 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1248199)
One of the premade parties for IWD2 is comprised of all females--a drow, a svirneblin, a half-orc, two gnomes, and a half-elf. In Dragon's Eye, there is one point where you have had to create a sabotaged histachii brew to enter a room and trip the switch that will open the final room on the level. This potion is usable only by humans--the premade party has none, making the game impossible to finish.
I don't think that's the case actually.

I've completed that game without a pure human in my party and I know I've read walkthroughs completed with parties without a single pure human in them. In fact, here's one:

http://www.gamesover.com/walkthrough...ind_dale_2.txt

And THIS was his party:

--teekc paladin 3 / fighter all the way half-elf
--raven barbarian x / rogue x (x = x) ghostwise halfling
--viconia cleric, demarch of mask drow
--edwin sorcerer aasimar
--bob wizard rock gnome
--joan druid half-orc

Not one pure human in that group, at least two half-humans though.

Sabotaged Histachii Brew Item description (item code 61POTNSB)

Quote:

Sabotaged Histachii Brew

This liquid, specially prepared by one of the yuan-ti priestesses, is the
concoction of yuan-ti venom and various herbs and roots, including the modified
mandrake root that you planted.

STATISTICS:

This enchanted broth transforms anyone who ingests it into a special yuan-ti
histachii for a period of four hours. While transformed, the imbiber maintains
mental clarity and control over their facilities, but is otherwise
indistinguishable from regular histachii.
According to D'hey-jazerrion's Notes, the potion can be ingested by any humanoid (not just a pure human).

Quote:
Most interesting is the steps required to create the yuan-ti histachii, or
"brood guards." The majority of the steps detail the creation of a histachii
brew that transforms a humanoid into the creature.
The pre-made party consists of a half-elf and a half-orc, both of which are definitely humanoid, I think that party CAN complete the game.

I could be wrong but I don't think so.

Azred 03-02-2012 11:17 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
All I know is that when she went there none of her party members could use it.

The door in question uses 61sseeye.bcs but all it does is check to see if someone's animation id is a histachii then makes that person run away if it isn't. I also see that only the 61potnhb item has one effect on humans and a different effect on non-humans; the 61potnsb appears to be usable by anyone.

How strange. I recall her having trouble because no one could get into that room with the shelf. *shrug* Oh, well...there must have been something else going on at the time.

Micah Foehammer 03-02-2012 11:27 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1248203)
All I know is that when she went there none of her party members could use it.

The door in question uses 61sseeye.bcs but all it does is check to see if someone's animation id is a histachii then makes that person run away if it isn't. I also see that only the 61potnhb item has one effect on humans and a different effect on non-humans; the 61potnsb appears to be usable by anyone.

How strange. I recall her having trouble because no one could get into that room with the shelf. *shrug* Oh, well...there must have been something else going on at the time.
That is strange. Not sure why it wouldn't work for her. Maybe a corrupted file? I went back and double checked my party and none of them were pure human.

You're right about the regular histachii brew having different effects on humans / non-humans.

Azred 03-02-2012 01:13 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
It is a shame that IE for the BG/BG2 series didn't have the "add effects list" effect; it makes limiting some spells easy.

Oh, well...I didn't see anything new on that website.

Reviving older games is not just a pastime for some people, it seems, but almost a way of life. Only recently I downloaded DosBox so I could play the really old Gold Box games on modern systems. Fight-for-fight, even Curse of the Azure Bonds is tougher than ToB (especially if you seek out the Mulmaster Beholder Corps).

Shadow Stranger 03-02-2012 07:56 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Thank goodness for Dust of Disappearance in that fight with the Beholders, you would never survive otherwise.

At the FRUA forum the Gold Box games have been decrypted to a fair degree. See the Hacking UA sub-forum.
Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures Forum - Index
A guy called Simeon Pilgrim actually produced a more modern application for Curse of the Azure Bonds.
Curse of the Azure Bonds Google Project

CerebroDragon 03-03-2012 10:08 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Can't say I really want to play any superfluous HD remakes of BG - I'd just prefer to replay them with new mods to be honest. There's plenty out there.

I fear that this hooplah might be just some crappy iOS port though as well.

I guess the optimistic argument would be that a graphical upgrade could introduce newer gamers to the BG series, which may make someone at Hasbro/whoever has the current D&D videogame rights see that there's still a market for cRPGs of high quality. And we could see a new BG as a result, or at least a new, quality cRPG. Who knows?

Interesting link on Curse of the Azure Bonds, Shadow Stranger - thanks for sharing!

Azred 03-05-2012 11:33 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Stranger (Post 1248206)
At the FRUA forum the Gold Box games have been decrypted to a fair degree. See the Hacking UA sub-forum.
Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures Forum - Index
A guy called Simeon Pilgrim actually produced a more modern application for Curse of the Azure Bonds.
Curse of the Azure Bonds Google Project
I found those, as well, and downloaded a copy of IDA--seems to be a really useful tool.

Although I am glad they are thinking of re-releasing/updating the BG series, I don't think I'll get it just because it might be HD format.

Ziroc 03-05-2012 05:22 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
If they make it, well, (if they keep the game the same) my walkthroughs should be helpful once more! :) And we'll see a huge uptick in new members for sure. heheh!

They gotta make an HD version of Wizards & Warriors too.... :)

TheCrimsomBlade 03-05-2012 08:25 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
As I has said a number of times over the past 10 years I have a very good old friend of mine who has a younger Brother that works for Bioware and has for many years.
He told us more than a 8 months ago that a three man team is working on an up dated 1st/3rd person version of the original Baldur's Gate including Tales of the Sword Coast for Possibly the next Generation X-Box and High end PC's. They are in no way official as they are just in the research part of the new engine and Bioware hasn't bought the idea yet. As employees of Bioware the are working on other projects and do the Baldur's Gate on the side. If they can get Bioware to accept the upgrading of what Bioware calls the grandfather of RPG PC games then maybe we will hear about it officially in 2015-2017. Apparently another company tried to sell Bioware a BETA in 2009 and Bioware set on a shelf and as yet haven't said any more about it.
So from what I got out of the conversation last summer Bioware Does Have it in the back of their minds to redo the Baldur's Gate saga but who knows when. I'm hoping for the 2015-2017 3-D 1st/3rd person that My friends Brother has spent the past 8 months working on when they have time.
The one big hold up has been that Bioware says that most of the people that played the original are now around the age of 40-60 and they don't know if the market is big enough to make a re-release cost effective.

One thing that we can do is, get all your friends to write to Bioware and request the return of the Baldur's Gate series also get your friends friends to write. The more letters they get the better the chance we may see the return of BG
With the success of Dragon Age Origins & the expansion and Dragon Age II and the possible expansion to Dragon Age II they may take a harder look at Baldur's Gate and if they do I'll be the first to pre-order it.
I keep saying that running Baldur's Gate on a PC with a Quad 16 core Microprocessor in full rendered 3-D would be totally FAN-TAS-TIC & beyond belief !! We can dream in the mean time.
Write those letters to Bioware and keep writing them.
TCB

Micah Foehammer 03-08-2012 08:54 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
"If you wish me dead, brother, it must be by your hand. No one else."

SpiritWarrior 03-08-2012 03:03 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
I thought it was a hint toward BG3 personally. Unless they're gonna do something about the archaic game engine, BG in HD is...meh.

CerebroDragon 03-08-2012 09:40 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
@ The CrimsomBlade
No, it's got nothing to do with Bioware. Trent Oster is ex-Bioware. His studio is called "Overhaul Games", which ironically hints that unfortunately, it will indeed be some kind of superfluous HD remake.

If you do the research, you'll see that he's already had a meeting with Atari. Furthermore, the fact that Trent prefers BG1 to BG2 gives more credence to the idea that it'll be a remake.

https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23baldursgate

I was hoping for another Infinity Engine game based on the source code stuff from the baldursgate.com website (Raise Dead: Infinity Engine!). BG3 at this point, wouldn't make any sense. I guess it's a case of watch this space and we'll see what happens.

SpiritWarrior 03-08-2012 09:55 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Many people forget that Atari talked previously about how they plan to churn out more BG and NWN's titles. It was a few years back now. Here's an old link.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/...ghts-planned/1

CerebroDragon 03-09-2012 07:31 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Maybe people forgot about it because nothing came of what they promised. ;)

Same goes for J.E Sawyer's Black Hound project - which was originally going to be BG3 (despite not continuing the storyline in any way) but got cancelled. Years later, Josh altered some of the content from the Black Hound proect into a still unfinished module for NWN2. Kind of understandable though given Sawyer's other big projects at Obsidian.

Here's some concept art for the original BG3 (Or Project Jefferson) that was abandoned.
https://plus.google.com/photos/11507...785?banner=pwa

SpiritWarrior 03-09-2012 11:42 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
They said they have plans to make more in the franchise but wouldn't discuss it until next year. This could simply be them arriving late to the party Atari-style.

Micah Foehammer 03-11-2012 05:09 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1248203)
All I know is that when she went there none of her party members could use it.

The door in question uses 61sseeye.bcs but all it does is check to see if someone's animation id is a histachii then makes that person run away if it isn't. I also see that only the 61potnhb item has one effect on humans and a different effect on non-humans; the 61potnsb appears to be usable by anyone.

How strange. I recall her having trouble because no one could get into that room with the shelf. *shrug* Oh, well...there must have been something else going on at the time.
I did a little digging and found that the Histachii Brew will turn into a useless potion if you rest. I wonder if the sabotaged brew does the same thing?

Ziroc 03-12-2012 12:05 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
I have a good feeling after Diablo 3 is released, and all the companies see the profit coming in, they will all work on RPG's or more 'Diablo clones' as they did in the past..

I think Diablo 3 will give PC gaming a good boost..

SpiritWarrior 03-12-2012 12:41 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
I hope so.

CerebroDragon 03-13-2012 10:40 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Uh...well, I don't think Diablo III is the kind of boost I really want for PC gaming and especially role-playing games. In fact, the design and genre style of that series has unfortunately already plagued the market too much thus the amount of Diablo clones. It's ironic that Diablo is actually being mentioned in a thread about Baldur's Gate - considering that BG's influence sadly, wasn't as strong. To be honest and this is my personal perference - we need more games made in the style of Baldur's Gate than we do Diablo.

Having said all that - I think The Wasteland 2 kickstarter project is a far more much more interesting and promising concept for the influence it may have on game design for developers and indeed PC gaming, rather than some over-bloated defacto MMO.

Ziroc 03-13-2012 02:39 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
I agree, CD, but ANY help for PC games is good at this point :). Diablo's ARE more hack and slash, and stuff.. but if it could get the Baldurs Gate 3 or remake up and going, I'm willing to except that hehe..

What older games lacked in graphics, sure made up with depth and storyline.. miss those days... STILL waiting on Thief 4 news... UGH.... its been in dev for 3 years!

Azred 03-13-2012 02:48 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
The site now has updated text in the source.

Quote:
Shadowy Figure - Raise Dead : Infinity Engine

"She left me to die. YOU left me to die. But Shar...Shar wanted me to live."

Micah Foehammer 03-14-2012 03:32 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1248276)
The site now has updated text in the source.
Updated again:

March 14, 2012
Shadowy Figure- Raise Dead : Infinity Engine

It is coming.

Azred 03-14-2012 04:05 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Not only that, but there is a countdown clock. The code is counting down to 15 March 2012 at noon for time zone GMT -7...so 1400CDT tomorrow or just about 23 hours from this post.

Counting down...to what? *shrug*

SpiritWarrior 03-14-2012 11:44 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Watch it be something retarded like Baldurs Gate with extra soundsets or portraits, lol.

CerebroDragon 03-15-2012 03:08 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Do your reading chaps - it's 99.9 percent confirmed. HD remake. /facepalm.

Azred 03-15-2012 10:36 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
I don't care about the HD, in and of itself, but I am curious if they will make any other changes. If so, then will those changes be merely cosmetic or will they do something like using the SoA/ToB engine with BG/TotSC? (yes, I know I can download the mods that do this already but I have never done it).

ElfBane 03-15-2012 11:38 AM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CerebroDragon (Post 1248285)
Do your reading chaps - it's 99.9 percent confirmed. HD remake. /facepalm.
Where could I read that? Link Pls. Thanks.

SpiritWarrior 03-15-2012 12:26 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElfBane (Post 1248289)
Where could I read that? Link Pls. Thanks.
Here also if u plox. Wondering where the actual announcment about it being HD is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CerebroDragon (Post 1248285)
Do your reading chaps - it's 99.9 percent confirmed. HD remake. /facepalm.
Also LOL @ 99.9% confirmed.

SpiritWarrior 03-15-2012 12:48 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1248288)
I don't care about the HD, in and of itself, but I am curious if they will make any other changes. If so, then will those changes be merely cosmetic or will they do something like using the SoA/ToB engine with BG/TotSC? (yes, I know I can download the mods that do this already but I have never done it).
Right, I'm the same. While HD would pique interest, for the majority of people it will be nothing more than a passing novelty. I certainly wouldn't put myself through playing that old thing again - the clunky gameplay would frustrate me to no end especially given how technology has evolved. There's a reason why a raise dead spell is needed for the nearly 14-year old Infinity Engine. While die-hard fanboys will jump at the chance to replay the game, I much prefer to remember it fondly for what it was. Playing it alongside newer games would only ruin any nostalgia I have.

Azred 03-15-2012 01:19 PM
Re: HD Version of Baldur's Gate?
 
Old-school game enthusiasts keep those games alive and well. Baldur's Gate...Fallout 2...Civilization II...the old Gold Box games...Wasteland...Bard's Tale I-III...and even Ultima I-III ares still being actively played today. There is a thread down in Miscellaneous Games about Wasteland 2, a game for which some of us have been waiting 20 years.

Still...HD in and of itself is no prize. Rather, the reawakened interest is the true goal.


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