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Felix The Assassin 06-22-2011 11:12 PM

Once a quitter, always a quitter
 
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...ay-through.php

Azred 06-23-2011 12:47 AM

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I concur. She should never have quit her job as governor because she handed any future political opponent the best weapon against her: "don't vote for my opponent because she is a quitter".

I don't think about her one way or another. To me, she is a political celebrity which means she does what every other celebrity does--self-promotion. *shrug*

John D Harris 06-24-2011 12:57 PM

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Flex the problem with the article starting off with the very first line, "The former Half term Gov." Well the writer by this statement is unable to count or do simple math. Sarah Palin was sworn in on Dec 4, 2006 and resigned July 3, 2009 for a total of 32 months of service. 32 months out of 48 months, (for those who are getting their knickers in a bunch right now 48 months equal 4 years which is how long the term of Alaska governor lasts) That 's 2/3 of her term not Half of her term. So from the very begining we have a falsehood, a LIE. Everything is started off from the point of a lie. Then did anyone notice the use of the words tentative, and preliminary in the discription of the schedule remaing that the lieing writer trying to propose as being quit on? Anyone care to look up in the dictionary what those words mean? Or would you rather believe the lie base everything on a lie, proceede from the starting position of a lie, ignor the meaning or words? I'm not saying you have to like Sarah Palin just be truthful and accurate have the guts to admit you don't like her based on an emotional reason and not a intellectual one.

Is Sarah Palin going to run for President of the USA? NO way she is having to much fun exploding the liberal hatemongers heads... She goes on a bus tour, the press chase after her like she was in heat, act like "papa-rot-ceee" then complain when she doesn't tell them where she is going, She doesn't have to tell them anything. But they in their arrogance and selfgratifing masibitory circle of intellectual dishonesty whine like 2 year olds... Sarah is playing them for the fools they are, and anyone believing their foolishness is well to Platantily and unashamidly bastardize and old saying "You are what you believe."

John D Harris 06-24-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1245945)
I concur. She should never have quit her job as governor because she handed any future political opponent the best weapon against her: "don't vote for my opponent because she is a quitter".

I don't think about her one way or another. To me, she is a political celebrity which means she does what every other celebrity does--self-promotion. *shrug*

Azred that is a rather wise and astute position. :D

Timber Loftis 06-24-2011 02:32 PM

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Yeah, she left politics and went into entertainment, simple as that.

SpiritWarrior 06-24-2011 03:02 PM

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Yeah went to go peddle a book and make reality shows. Would love if she ran, but I doubt it. There's far more money to be had by doing what she is doing right now.

John D Harris 06-24-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Timber Loftis (Post 1245971)
Yeah, she left politics and went into entertainment, simple as that.

sure is... just that simple...it pays better :P

Sparhawk 06-25-2011 07:01 PM

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*Yawn* Who would want her to become anything but a celeb anyway - the lady is so shit-dumb that it would make the rest of the world piss our pants laughing if the US was actually stupid enough to elect her ( That being said...you DID vote Bush a second term so unfortunately intelligence is not something I would rate high in the US ).

Felix The Assassin 06-25-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparhawk (Post 1245981)
*Yawn* Who would want her to become anything but a celeb anyway - the lady is so shit-dumb that it would make the rest of the world piss our pants laughing if the US was actually stupid enough to elect her ( That being said...you DID vote Bush a second term so unfortunately intelligence is not something I would rate high in the US ).

Correct.

W's opponent is equivalent to what the repubs are attempting to put forward now. Politicians who are mere jokes in their profession, and entered in an attempt to win the miracle challenge. I'm hoping by 16 the tea party will have downsized and real conservative politicians will step up to the plate. Another grandpap as candidate is not welcome!

Azred 06-25-2011 07:36 PM

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Why does a United States political celebrity make you so upset?

Let us presume, simply for the sake of discussion, that Ms. Palin were elected to the office of President of the United States. I am curious--how would that directly have an effect on you, someone who is not a citizen of the United States? I would have a greater reason to worry than you would...but then again I don't think about her enough to get upset.

SpiritWarrior 06-26-2011 03:42 AM

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I guess many countries would be apprehensive about her making up stories about WMD's and starting wars based on these deceptions, or deciding that certain countries are not part of her "real America" as she puts it. Under Bush, relations with the rest of the planet plummeted to an all time low, so I guess they fear a repeat of this with her...idk?

Personally I would LOVE to see her get elected just for the circus that would ensue. But alas, I think the rest of the country (namely, those living in "fake America") wouldn't vote for her. The next person on my wishlist after Palin is Donald Trump. His hair alone could hypnotise the general public and keep evolutionists guessing for years.

Azred 06-27-2011 03:13 AM

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"Relations with the rest of the planet" is irrelevant. Some people are going to hate us for a variety of reasons, including those who dislike us for no reason other than we exist.

That being said, I concur that a Palin presidency would be one heck of a circus.

SpiritWarrior 06-27-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1245986)
"Relations with the rest of the planet" is irrelevant. Some people are going to hate us for a variety of reasons, including those who dislike us for no reason other than we exist.

lol?

Cerek 06-27-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Azred (Post 1245986)
"Relations with the rest of the planet" is irrelevant. Some people are going to hate us for a variety of reasons, including those who dislike us for no reason other than we exist.

That being said, I concur that a Palin presidency would be one heck of a circus.

<font color=plum>Relations with the rest of the planet are important - at least keeping good relations with other governments. I'll agree it doesn't really matter if the general population of other countries like us or not, any more than it matters how we feel about other countries.

Our allies did stand by us (for the most part) when GWB was POTUS, even though he managed to take the universal sympathy from ALL countries (including those that traditionally did not like us) of 9/11 and piss most of it away in just 18 months. That was a truly epic fail in diplomatic relations.

So, it is important to foster good relations with other countries. You never know when you will need allies for different situations. There are definitely some countries (or rather, gov't leaders) we should not be concerned with pleasing; Qaddaffi/Libya, Kim/North Korea, etc. While it would be nice to maintain at least a neutral relation with them, any sign of "reaching out" will be interpreted as a sign of weakness by them. I liked Reagan's response to Qaddaffi much better. You want to declare "war" on the U.S.? Seriously? OK, here is just a taste of what you can expect. Two bombing runs on his HQ and one of his palaces and, suddenly, Qaddaffi decided it was best to go back under his rock and keep his mouth shut for the next two decades.

There is a time for good relations and there is a time to show piss-ant dictators they do NOT want to mess with us. The only reason Qaddaffi is rattling his sabers again is because we are stretched too thin with our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and he (and others) know it. We need to get our troops back home and consolidate our power again. Iraq and Afghanistan will never have the type of democratic gov't GWB wanted to establish and we need to just leave them to their own design. </font>


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