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Felix The Assassin 11-10-2010 09:16 PM

Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Classic response to a situation where, "not in my job statement" rules.


http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...ted;photovideo

VulcanRider 11-11-2010 08:43 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
I can't believe the gov't is totally clueless about this thing. They may not be talking about it, but somebody knows something. Pentagon: Evidence indicates mystery plume was a plane contrail suggests it may not be the first time this has happened:
Quote:

A U.S. Northern Command official who didn't want to be identified had said the contrail could very well be from an airplane.

An "illusion" effect made the contrail appear as if it was rising straight up, but it was actually level, the official said. The event is similar to another sighting around New Year's Eve in which observers believed they witnessed a missile, he said.
My guess is a test launch of a radar-invisible missile. Otherwise some air traffic controller somewhere on the west coast would have seen it. If it was an airplane contrail, ATC should have seen something. If it was a private missile, or launched by another country, and NORAD really didn't see it, then we might as well shut them down 'cause they aren't doing their jobs...

ElfBane 11-11-2010 11:06 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
It was a recommissioned SR-71. :)

Olorin 11-11-2010 02:23 PM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Definitely not a missile.

Jon Stewart did a good job poking fun at the media frenzy on the Daily Show (for running with the missile theory just b/c they couldn't get someone to confirm otherwise--something along the lines of, wow if a reporter can't navigate the government bureaucracy in less than a 1 hour segment, it suddenly becomes a government conspiracy?). The best part was when he showed a clip of the interview with the helicopter pilot that filmed the contrail--the pilot said he noticed the start of the trail, and then focused on it for about 10 minutes. Is the Daily Show really the only cable news that can do the math on that and realize that if a helicopter can film the trail forming over a 10 minute period, it has to be something a whole lot slower than a missile?

Felix The Assassin 11-11-2010 07:23 PM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Olorin (Post 1243711)
Definitely not a missile.

Jon Stewart did a good job poking fun at the media frenzy on the Daily Show (for running with the missile theory just b/c they couldn't get someone to confirm otherwise--something along the lines of, wow if a reporter can't navigate the government bureaucracy in less than a 1 hour segment, it suddenly becomes a government conspiracy?). The best part was when he showed a clip of the interview with the helicopter pilot that filmed the contrail--the pilot said he noticed the start of the trail, and then focused on it for about 10 minutes. Is the Daily Show really the only cable news that can do the math on that and realize that if a helicopter can film the trail forming over a 10 minute period, it has to be something a whole lot slower than a missile?

Mull this over.

The penalties of having stealth aircraft are a reduction of power due to the reduced foot print of intake and exhaust properties. With a reduction of power comes a reduction of speed...

VulcanRider 11-14-2010 07:07 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
The CHINESE did it ??? (CNN iReport)
Quote:

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast.
...
The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China’s leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing to Washington.
Two things came to mind: (1) this reminds me of a loanshark breaking a finger as a "reminder" to pay your debt. (2) does anybody think this would have happened with a Repub in the White House?

Felix The Assassin 11-14-2010 08:45 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VulcanRider (Post 1243720)
The CHINESE did it ??? (CNN iReport)

Two things came to mind: (1) this reminds me of a loanshark breaking a finger as a "reminder" to pay your debt. (2) does anybody think this would have happened with a Repub in the White House?

Nice find VR.

Yes, I'm sure there are some that feel it would have happened, I however, am not one of them.

Micah Foehammer 11-14-2010 09:54 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VulcanRider (Post 1243720)

Actually that's not a CNN report at all. It's an iReport posted by someone named DaElmer. According to CNN, iReport is a user-generated section of CNN.com. The stories in this section are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they are posted.

The actual source for the report is this link:

http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen...rn-california/

For more information on Mr Madsen, check here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen

And this one is just too funny:

http://www.insider-magazine.com/madsen_under_threat.htm

Felix The Assassin 11-14-2010 10:31 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Micah Foehammer (Post 1243722)
Actually that's not a CNN report at all. It's an iReport posted by someone named DaElmer. According to CNN, iReport is a user-generated section of CNN.com. The stories in this section are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they are posted.

The actual source for the report is this link:

http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen...rn-california/

For more information on Mr Madsen, check here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen

And this one is just too funny:

http://www.insider-magazine.com/madsen_under_threat.htm

Shh, you will let the conspirators know, that we know, what they know. ;)

VulcanRider 11-14-2010 10:45 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Ok, so Wayne's been branded a whackjob. But this whackjob's a former Navy anti-submarine expert who also worked in the NSA. It's not that big a stretch to believe he's still got friends in those areas and might hear things not made public. Nut or insider? Time will tell...

SpiritWarrior 11-14-2010 05:05 PM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Proof of aliens right there.

Chewbacca 11-16-2010 02:22 PM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
It was the Sea Monkeys, soon they will come free their brothers and sisters held in captivity...

Felix The Assassin 11-16-2010 04:28 PM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1243737)
It was the Sea Monkeys, soon they will come free their brothers and sisters held in captivity...

They have already been freed, they will deaprt from the Nation's capitol soon, one possibly in cuffs as of today's news...

kev 11-17-2010 03:44 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
I am more inclined to believe the wacko.

I don't believe that it was a contrail for 2 reasons:

1. It is the wrong shape & colour for a contrail. It is possible that I have never seen that colour before because I have only seen contrails in Australia & Asia. California may have excessive pollution that changes the colour of what is seen in the sky.

2. The US government said that it is definatley not a missile, which leads me to think that it definatley is a missile.

Micah Foehammer 11-19-2010 08:51 AM

Re: Does anybody know where that contrail came from?
 
I like this explanation:



What was supposed to be finale for next season's cable hit 'Mythbusters', wound up as a national defense news story instead of an episode focused on sending a harmless home made missile into orbit.

Hosts of the show, Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage admit to building the two-stage missile in response to a viewer challenge to send an animal into space. Having built short range rockets powered by paraffin wax and even salami in the past, they took on the challenge expecting to record the successful launch for next season. "Until we saw that the two stages didn't separate", says technical engineer on the show, Larry "Hillbilly" Wilson. "Bummer too, because we roasted our little astronaut in the process".

Referring to "Chip" the Mythbusters pet Rhesus monkey, Wilson described the events experienced in flight to be quite harrowing, at least according to the footage they reclaimed from the in-cabin camera. "Everything seemed to be going quite well until the first stage wouldn't separate from the second. The second engine did fire, but instead of pushing the capsule into orbit, it toasted Chip's behind pretty good". When asked how they came to that conclusion, Wilson replied, "Well when you start to see fur a-smokin and Chip reaching down into his little space diaper to throw feces at the camera, that's a pretty safe sign that Chip was not happy". Chip was recovered five miles off shore in a mini life raft, extending his middle finger as a welcome to his rescuers.

This particular missile design showed promise, where the engine propellant had been made from pork fat, carbon powder and oxidized with hydrogen peroxide obtained from Barbie's House of Root Bleaching. "All you need is something flammable and a way to feed oxygen into the engine", says Wilson. "Besides, it smells just like barbeque in the process".

U.S. officials are not amused, despite the fact that no property, human or animal was injured or damaged during the launch. Charges may be filed against the Mythbusters show for unlawful possession of an explosive device. "Hell, where I come from we call it bacon grease, and smear it on a warm biscuit", says Wilson. "They're angry because two guys in a garage just about entered the space race with nothing more than tin cans and scrapings from a fry pan. Oh, and one seriously pissed off monkey".


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