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I'm listening to Sen. McCain complain about this puke getting his Maranda rights read to him... Well Senator if we don't read him his rights then citizenship is worthless, I understand there is a public safety exception to having to read him his rights when he was first arrested... well as much as it pains me the AG is correct and actted correctly. There's a world of difference between a US citizen caught on US soil in an act of, or arrested for terrorism (war), and a foreigner caught on US soil in an act of, or arrested for terrorism (war). The US citizen should be charged for treason, while the non US shouldn't. Any US citizen has rights and there is no excuse for not giving them their rights. If we aren't going to make a distinction between citizens and non citizens then we might as well chunk it all in the trash.

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What's treason worth in the US these days? 4 horses and some rope sounds good.

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And put it on pay-per-view to help pay down the deficit...

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rotflmao... I like it thunking outside the box

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All I gotta say is; thank god for moronic terrorists! I hope they keep failing....
Bombs made out of popsicles and toothpicks next!

The Veteran guy that ran the T-Shirt vendor really is a Hero! As is the cop that put the fire out! Give these guys one of the Goldman Saks bonuses! (Take it away from them) :)

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Indeed, I wish all criminals (terrorists, pirates, muggers, etc.) were stupid. Like those pirates who tried to hijack a French gunship, or was it a destroyer? I'll have to look it up.

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It looks like an amateurish attempt as far as bombings go. I feel that it's not improbable that this isn't a "typical" terrorist attack in the sense that it's linked to the Taliban/is against the evil heathen Amreekis/revenge for drone attacks etc. It could be that this bloke is angry at Wall St and NYC because it represents what caused the recession and caused him to lose his house. Bit of a way off theory, but right now this doesn't look to have Al Qaeda/the Taliban's fingerprints on it. It seems too amateurish. Plus it's not a suicide bombing, which always increases the chance of failure. Couldn't imagine a group like Al Qaeda or even the Taliban being as sloppy as this (though good for New Yorkers as nobody was injured).

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I think Stephen Colbert's comment summed it up.

His terrorist attack attempt was "Halalious"

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I thought a Taliban faction in Pakistan admitted responsibility? The problem with these kind of attacks is, amateurish or not, they tie up resources. An amateurish bomb in a big airport would still disrupt flights nationwide.

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So agree.

It's hard to maintain decency, procedure and "a fair go" under such situations but when you do your country and your people rise far and above anything these scum would ever be.
:thumbsup:

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:hehe: I like it.

And occasionally kill the odd innocent or two when the dice rolls in favour...

The know-how behind the attempt would be comical (dry fertiliser go bang? With fireworks?!) if the underlying intent wasn't so serious. The guy wanted to kill lots of innocent people. I don't imagine any official would consider resources "lost" in an operation that appears to have quickly apprehended the would-be terrorist with zero casualties. It is indeed a good demonstration, good practise, good publicity..

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It's almost like Wile E. Coyote got recruited by AQ and The Roadrunner is the U.S.A. Beep! Beep!

Did they find an empty A.C.M.E. crate near the scene of the crime?

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I believe the A.C.M.E crate was still full. ;)

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You're right Wellard, get this.... we got some idiot congressman who wants to deport natural born US citizen children of ILLEGAL immigrants.... I'm all for throwing Illegal immigrants out of the US, but not at the cost of any US citizen. Those children have the same rights granted by the US Consititution as I do, sure thier parents are illegal as "Hale" and deserve to be thrown out, but the US Citizen doesn't.

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But that raises the question, should we break up the family because the kids are legal and the parents are not? Either they all go or they all stay as far as the interests of the children.

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Terrorism is so 10 years ago. I'm bored. Hear that, terrorists? You're droll.

I do support giving any person under arrest their full rights. Not doing so not only spits on the constitution, it also increases the likelihood that good evidence can get tossed out. In this case, there were actually ~8hrs. of time between arrest and mirandizing. I feel that's too much, but at least it was done.

That said, it's kinda BS. Mirandizing is a bit silly. Who doesn't know that they have the right to not talk and have an attorney? I think it ought to include about 3-4 other statements, including a statement that the police are under no obligation to tell you the truth and are permitted to try to trick you with false threats.

John D, I'm surprised you support anchor babies. I mean, an Illegal makes a 5 ft hop across a national border and drops her baby and birthing fluids on Arizona soil and -- TA DA!!! -- it's an American. I think the policy is stupid. Send them both back, amniotic sack and all.

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:hehe: This is wrong on so many levels. :thumbsup:

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I support the Constitution of the USA, I don't call them anchor babies I call them what they are US citizens, afforded all the same rights as you or I. If I'm going to fight for my rights to keep and bare arms granted by the USC, I must fight for all the rights granted by the USC to everyone else. IMHO if'n I don't I'm being hypocritical and part of the problem not the solution. please don't mistake thinking all US are afforded the same rights, is the same as thinking we shouldn't lock down our border so tight that a cock roach can't cross the border. Nor is it a call for ammesty... it's a call to protect the rights of citizens.

Firstorm, you are right we as a nation better not break up families... which is why I support letting the illegal parents of US citizens stay, until the US Citizen reaches 18 years of age, if the parents haven't obtained citizenship by then, chunk'em out and let the door hit'em in the rear.

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I'll tell you what I think......

I think it is a difficult question. There is
no way that I could write down a hard-
and-fast rule that would be reasonable
under all circumstances.

But I am almost completely sure that we
must start by closing the border. Nobody's
ideas seem to work well if we don't know
who is here.

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Anyone else hear that the guy went to terrorist training camp? Was I the only one who thought it sounded kind of funny?

6am wake up!
7am prayers!
8am breakfast!
9am exercise!
10:30am storytime!
12:30pm lunch!
1:30pm bomb making!
3pm arts and crafts!
4pm swim time!
4:30 pm snack time!
5pm rhetoric!
6:30pm dinner!
8pm special activities! Field trips, movie night, campfire story telling ("The Woman Who Bared Her Ankles" is popular), or just hanging out!
10pm lights out!

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Too true. Why we don't do what every other country does and have a closed and controlled border is beyond my understanding.

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Because then the 200 million Mexcians that arent here yet would cry the Rio Grande too deep to wade across.

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Wait, wat?

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Wat wat?

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Ahhh I see why the bomb failed now he should have gone to one of the vast rightwing milita hate-mongering name calling teaparty training camps ;) here's our schedule:
6:00 am wake up
6:30 am Breakfast
7:00 am PT (physcial training)
8:00 am Target practice (How to put two shots center mass)
10:00 am Racial Slur Voice lessons (How to throw racial slurs out that can only be picked up by minority Congressmen, and not by the Capital police standing next to them, or any of the many news camera and mircophones waiting to catch the slurs)
11:30 am Lunch
12:30 pm Target practice ( how to put two shots center mass)
1:30 pm Illusionary Rallies (How mask inciting violence and hatered at the rallies by cleaning up our own trash to fool the police and cleanup crews into saying we were very well mannered, and we didn't have any arrests for violence)
3:00 Target practice (Just incase we forgot how to put two shots center mass)
4:00 Media Bomb making (How make the mainstream media personalities nearly drool at any bomb scare that it might be from one of us, and lament when it turns out that it isn't)
5:30 pm Dinner
6:30 pm Free time (Shooting range is open for Target practice if desired)
7:30 pm Manafesto writing ( How to write a manafesto Blaming Former President GWB, both wars, not enough Government safety nets, before flying your plane into an IRS building)
9:00 pm Free time (Inbreeding, gun clinging, and praying, beer drinking, country music are incouraged)
Lights out when ever because we are adults and can deside for ourselves when we need to go to sleep

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Wat wat?

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My guess is, he's playing to the stereotypes?

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LOA you need to come to my training camp ;)

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nah just practicing my manafesto writin' ;)

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Be very careful when you call for "security" measures to override civil liberties. As Benjamin Franklin said “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

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Would I be able to switch out one target practice session to have more time to work on my Sarah Palin fanfiction?

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Oh sure Illumina... in fact that's a great idea... hmmm may have to add that to the next camp.

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Is it a "bring your own beer and rifle" camp or will you be supplying?

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Since target practice is manditory we'd supply the guns and bullets, beer guzzlin', inbreeding, praying, (you'll have to bring your own favorite gun for gun clinging) are incouraged you'll have to bring your own beer... but ice and a big'ol ice chest will be provided, 'cause warm beer is just wrong ;)

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LoL, as an alternate could you choose to go to a spelling class? That's the best thing about teabagger rallies, the misspellings.

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Now TL If'n I did that wat would you have to complain 'bout? :P

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I'm guessing that family tickets for the camp will be for 6 adults plus all children inclusive.
But is there going to be any music provided in the price? maybe both types of music - banjo and polka :heee:

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Will hard liquor be permitted, or is this a beer-only event?

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I guess that'd be DYO. Distill-your-own, naturally. ;)

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Hmmmm Sever how'd you know... I don't remember you at the last one ;) Sure Illumina we prefer corn squeezins' (you score more points) but any will do ;)