The original thread is here:

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...c;f=2;t=018377

Ok, guys, just some guidelines for the road. Feel free to insult the "Tragic Mustache Guy", or provide rebuttals for him, within the scope of the ToS of Ironworks. But let's have no more personal insults at each other, ok? Just because someone has a difference of opinion over their choice of NPC does not make them "wrong" and you "right". After all, it is only a game, with no feelings to be hurt if you don't care for it. People, on the other hand, are a different matter altogether. ;)

Now go forth and have fun. [img]smile.gif[/img]

-Sazerac

[ 10-25-2002, 09:44 AM: Message edited by: Sazerac ]

Howdy. I just finished reading through the first thread and decided to reply.

Now personally, I cant stand Anomen! He's got one of the most annoying voices in the game(second *ONLY* to Jan), and his 'romance' is...well, laughable is the kindest thing I can think of. However...on a pure performance level...I'd rather have him than any other cleric. Jaheria is nice and all, but being a split class makes her weak in the long run(and really, she's a druid, not a cleric). Viconia is powerful at high levels...and that voice...mmmmmmm. But she lacks 'tank-ness'. She simply cant hang in the later fights. Ano is definitely the way to go. Especially after he gets Knighted. And if I have to put up with a bit of annoyance to accomplish winihbg the game...I'm up for it. [img]smile.gif[/img]

On the Imoen issue...Well, I couldn't stand her in BGII. Her voice was third on my list of *STOP SPEAKING TO ME...YOU'RE MELTING MY EAR DRUMS*. I mean, in BGI she rocked. Started out as a theif and continued to kick butt through the whole game. I got her up pretty high level and she was great at backstabbing bosses! [img]smile.gif[/img] Unfortunately, when they revamped her for BGII they made her a Dual Classed mage...HUH?!? What the hell were they thinking? The writers took a really good(although still incredibly annoying...She was first on my list of annoying characters in BGI) character, and made her worthless. She's a mediocre theif and cant earn enough levels as a mage to make her useful. Add that in to her annoying voice and manner...Well, it was a no brainer. The only reason I even had her in my party was because I had no choice at the beginning, and had to rescue her sorry ass later. I dropped her like a hot potato as soon as possible.

Anyway...that's my [img]graemlins/twocents.gif[/img]

Enjoy...or not :D
Nacht

Personally, I've never found wee Imoen to be annoying, but then, I have a high pain tolerance when it comes to annoying behavior. ;) Same goes for Anomen. Actually, I can stomach just about every NPC in the game other than Jaheira. One has to draw the line somewhere, and her constant carping and complaining is just not fun. There's no "humor" to her, where I can find humor in all the others.

I definitely liked Imo better in BG1, her line about "I've done had enough of this!" cracked me up when I heard it the first time.

-Sazerac

LOL...Yeah, me too. Although I think that her constantly saying "Yep" in that too-freakin-cheerful voice of hers was enough to drive a strong man mad. :D

I think another reason why I like Anomen is because I never judge on first appearances. A lot of people have judged me on first appearances, they thought I was mentally challenged just because I'm in a wheelchair. I'd be a bit of a hypocrite if I thought it was wrong of people to judge me on a first appearance, and judge others the same way.

LOL, well, she's a "kid sister"; she's supposed to sound like one! Some of her more "glib" sayings do get a bit on the "pwecious" side, though. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Hmmm....

I have just come home from school; next week will be Half-term holiday so i get a week off. I expect the game finished by the end of that.

As for Immy....I could NEVER find her annoying. Maybe it's 'cos I'm a girl-and I note the majority of Immy-haters are guys-but at the start of BG2 in Chatau irenicus I just though "Bless" when she started doing what you deem "Complaining." she's my character's kid sister so i think she's adorable!
Anyway, that's off topic.
People wonder why i hate Anomen?
*rolls eyes* let's just say THE VERY FIRST TIME I PLAYED BG 2 I HEARD HIM FOR THE FIRST TIME AND JUST THOUGHT, "Right. How can i kill this b*****d? maybe it's cos first time I had him i picked him up only for his Holy Smite on Big Red Angry Dragon, made him have revenge, then had to listen to his MOANING! on and On and On! it drove me NUTS! grrrrr.... *hefts Improved Staff of the Magi double damage against baby squires*

you sound like that annoying voice Saz ;) *grin* LOL., soz, too good to resist ;) *grin*
thats a point... [img]tongue.gif[/img] lol, whats MY place now... *ponders this* considering that you ppl made me marry Kat... and get Lady G and Att as "addopted online parents in law" [img]tongue.gif[/img] considering they all pLay BG2... I wonder where MY postion is now? [img]tongue.gif[/img] *grin*
ditto Kat, except that female part... I am most definatly NOT female. lol. Altho, Immy CAN be annoying, but she isnt as annoying as some of the other NPCs ;) lol, but then being my chars younger sis, I expect a degree of annoyingness from her (is that even a word?) [img]tongue.gif[/img] lol, actually, the comp AI annoys me far more then Immy herself... honestly. Some of the scripting is awful [img]tongue.gif[/img] *grin* I'll moan about Anomen later, I gotta get offline now ;) be back in well, 1/2 an hr. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

LOL, well, she's a "kid sister"; she's supposed to sound like one! Some of her more "glib" sayings do get a bit on the "pwecious" side, though. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]LOLOLOLOL...."pwecious" HAHAHAHAHA [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

Like I said...good character to have in the party. But the irritation factor almost made it not worth it.

Nacht

trade kelsey against anti-anomen for imoen anytime!

Zuvio, what did that sentance mean? *confused look*
You'd trade kelsey for the Anti-Anomen, you'd trade kelsey and the Anti-Anomen (which, btw, is Gal's anyway ;) ) you'd trade Kelsey for Anti-Anomen for Imoen anyday? *REALLY baffled*

I think the reason that Saz locked down the other thread is due to his dual role of Captain of the Limerick Police and President of the Prevention of Posturing Poor Pundits of Poetry.
Saz, I will not be stopped. There is a need to bring higher forms of literature to the penultimate task of insulting that human sardine in a can known as Anomen. The members of this website deserve only the finest in poor poetry and I will see that they get it.

free verse:

Like the wind in the darkest of nights
springing forth with the voice of thunder
Anomen speaks
yet who wants to listen

I like Jan on the whole. He's a good thief/mage, and he his wild yarns provide constant entertainment. Plus he has the most rewarding side quest( except for Haer'Daelis!!)

Wh-what?! Jan has the most rewarding side quest? I found it awful and unsatisfying. What did you find rewarding in it?

-Lem

What I mean is that it's better than the quests you get if you have characters for a long time!
Nalias and Anomens are short and dull.
Keldorns is even shorter.
Other characters don't even have these quests.
Edwins is pretty good, but its very hard.
Korgans and Aeries can be accessed without them.

Jan's gives you experience and has a strange story of its own. ( I sound a lot like a sales peron, don't I?!).
O.K so maybe I was wrong. But Jan's still a good thief! As well as being a specialist mage I prove my case.

I come to think of it.... Anomen has sparked more than 200 comments .
Imagine how much the perferct PC will get!!!

perfect pc...? but there isnt one... if you think about it, all children of Bhaal are tainted, well, maybe except Immy. lol, then again... [img]tongue.gif[/img] isnt this supposed to be "anti Anomen"; so far there doesnt seem to have been a lot of that. lol, has anyone ever stormed Anomen's 'Radiant Heart' place, killed them all, then dropped Anomen off near a pile of corpses... that was fun. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sorry to disagree with Nacht, my long-time ally in GD, but I infinitely prefer Viconia: better clerical spells (like Harm) high DEX and WIS without that annoying quest, and beautifulto boot. As for Imoen, have never found her to be annoying in BGII, in fact, I wouldn't play the game without her. As I mentioned in the other thread, I am going through the game with just my pally, Viconia, and Imoen, and haven't had any trouble, so far. Viconia has the Red Dragon Armor and Shield, plus Crom Faeyr, and I can't literally remember the last time she got killed. Immy makes a good mage with just enough thief skills.

I usually give Vics heavy armour. Cant remember what its called. there WAS a mace that put her str up to 18 I think, she got that [img]tongue.gif[/img] lol, or a girdle of firegiant str or something, erm, actually, I cant remember the last time Vics got killed. Come to think of it, most of my NPCs DONT get killed... usually... hehe. Sarevok and Jaheria seem to be the ones that get killed the most... I think. [img]tongue.gif[/img] . lol. When Anomen was a part of my party, he managed to get killed an awful lot, and it wasnt outa spite or anything, why waste Vics and Jah's ressurection spells? lol.

Actually, I think that it's a downside all NPC's don't have at least two quests.

anomen licks the proverbial goat testicle. I'm sorry folks but he is just sooooo annoying. Blah Blah Blah I wanna be a paladin whine whine whine. I always end up killing him no matter what alignment I am, because I just think that is what my character would do. If this is a real society sign me up.

errrr.. I can't really recall ... what the hell was I thinking !?!

errrr.. I can't really recall ... what the hell was I thinking !?!</font>[/QUOTE]You're okay as long as it wasn't about a naked Anomen! :eek:

[img]tongue.gif[/img] :D ;) [img]smile.gif[/img]

In Imoen's words:

"Ewww....I don't want to think about that too much!" [img]graemlins/1puke.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

-Sazerac

An insult a day keeps Anomen away. (I hope)
That isn't rust on the back of Anomens iron pants.
Anomen has a breath attack just like a dragon only his is called speaking.
Anomen wears a beard so you won't see his chin quiver when he actually has to fight.

See, It isn't that hard to get into the true spirit of this thread.
Insult Anomen. Tryit; you'll like it.
Kat, I hope you notice that I've remained true to the cause.

Awww, come now, thats just mean, how *could* you insult the dragons by comparing their breath to Anomen? I mean, its just degrading... (yeah, I know that may sound odd coming from me, judging by my name, but... respect a decent enemy...) I'm sure the poor dragons have gone off somewhere and started sulking becoz you compared Anomen to em *cheeky grin* ;)

Antryg, my dear, you are indeed true to the cause. i hope Hedda will be too when you get her back :D

Anomen...is....No comment. He annoys me even more than Aerie (Now THAT's saying something!)

Saz, i didn't mean to freak you (who am i kidding, I'm glad I did [img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img] )

There was a crap squire from Athkatla,

What rhymes with Athkatla? :eek:

lol, kat, why not try "Amn"; I'm sure you could find something to ryhme with that...

I'm sorry Calaethis, but I have to disagree. Even though I would never want to insult somebody in the draco family you have to admit the simularities. When someone is confronted by a dragon the tendency is to run away. It's the same when faced with Anomen. Just because it is for a different reason doesn't make it any less true. A dragons breath is indeed awesome with fire, acid, ice, etc.. When Anomen lets out a breath he SPEAKS. Which would you rather deal with? I rest my case. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/jump.gif

Ahem...

There once was a squire from Athkatla
Who thought himself much of a battlah,
He annoyed to no end,
And needed Depends,
And that's why he's a paladin not-a.

:D

Insult Anomen?
O.k...
He is smells like Carrion and rotten Basilisk eggs!
Hes as smart as a dead kobold with its head chopped off!
Hes as arrogant as um...?
And he Looks like a demons rear!(..)

O.k happy now I made Anomen fodder!

( Sazerac, I heard you could get people pictures and druff for SiGs and Replys. Can you help me? If you do I 'llgive you Anomen fodder!)

...I s'pose you've seen my IWs name... there was a reason I choose it as a last name... a disturbing habbit of challenging dragons to single combat in BG2... and winning. There ARNT any similarity's between Anomen and a dragon... well... maybe a green... but thats irrelevent... kinda... I'd rather deal with the dragon, OR run Anomen tho. eithers fine with me. LOL heheh, I think you picked the wrong person to argue "deal with dragons" [img]tongue.gif[/img] hehehehe.

Haiku
*ahem*
Sun shining brightly.
Cranes take flight, hearts are lightened.
Anomen is dead.

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/laugh.gif

I will hold a competition on who hates Anomen the most!
Simply send insult to him on this thread and I will Judge the winner! The prize is.... uh, I'll think of somethink.

uh...Sliz...that's for ME to decide as the secretary in charge of recruitment into the Anti-Anomen...me, Attalus, Galadria and the ever-hungry Piestrider :D

lol, what about ME Kat? [img]tongue.gif[/img] hehe, you force me to join this, then right me off as a none important member? I'm hurt :( hehhe. ;)

Sure, you can be the Chief torturee. ^_^ Don't feel bad, you have a liscance to insult Anomen at all times!

awww, but Kat! Tortures YOUR speciality.... :( lol, besides I dont wanna torture Sliz... [img]tongue.gif[/img] and I dont need a license to insult anybody! If I wanna insult em, I'll insult them, altho, most prob they'll be concequences... oh wait, does this mean all these insults are "formalised"? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

torturee...means the VICTIM of torture you twit. *sigh* The things I do for my country (check) The things I do for my home (no, not that either)
The things I do when I'm bored...

hehehehe funny kat ;) lol. you could say "the things you have to put UP with from me..." *grin* btw, could you comon to msn... lol, oh u just did, [img]tongue.gif[/img] ARGH! I'M AN AVATAR OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE! TIS UNNATURAL! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

"Insulting Anomen each day keeps the taxman away"
"Kill Anomen and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone"
http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/jump.gif