Why do female dwarwes have beards? It dosen't look so good.

<font color="lightblue">Because Bioware took "All dwarves have facial hair" a bit too literally... </font>

I've read some books (IIRC, it was Dragonlance series) telling that all female dwarves have beards and are rather ugly. Heh, I don't want to be a dwarf ;) But, surprisingly, dwarves themselves think their femmies are the best ;)

Read pratchett. Specificaly "The Truth", but he mentions it elsewhere as well.

Im sure there are plenty of more canonical references to it as well.

Because they couldn't be bothered to make a seperate set of avatars for them. (The paper dolls doesn't have any beards).

There is no avatar for female gnomish wizards either.

I have heard that it is impossible to create new avatars (you must replace existing ones). Otherwise it could be a great community effort to supply the graphics.

well, from a dwarf point of view what fun is a woman without a beard, you've got nothing to hold onto while doing... nm.......

it is mentioned in alot of places, and I was really irritated by Ed Greenwood when I read the Forgotten Realms boxed set and it said most female dwarves shaved, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.... but regardless it's one of the reasons why few people ever identified female dwarves in Tolkiens LotR, and is mentioned in most of the canon TSR books.

It could be a cultural thing. In some Dwarven cultures, females shaving may be the norm.

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Morgeruat - in the appendixes for LOTR i think it is mentioned that female dwarves usually travel in disguise as male dwarves, and thats why they are few people ever identified them

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<table><tr><td>It's a touchy question--I'm thinking of adding a Female Dwarven Fighter/Thief (or possibly a Swashbuckler), and having to add a beard to this picture --->
might just be more trouble than it's worth. Then again, bearding her would add credence to the "When not at home, females pose as males" thing. After all, she is rather flat-chested....oh never mind.

And depending on her facial hair, I'll have to play with both the Male and Female sets of Dwarven and Gnomish avatars & paperdolls.<td width=10><td><img src=http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/sixofspades/1018.jpg>




<tr><td>Just for the heck of it, here's the "After" version of the pic for my Duergar Cleric:<td width=10><td><img src=http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/sixofspades/1360.jpg></table>

You just try playing Neverwinter Nights (and it's not just dwarves)! Even if you make a really saucy female elven warrior you can still see all the stubble. Horrific!

SoS:
Duergar looking good (did that dwarf used to be ginger?!)

In ToB, Jan and Korgan have a conversation about a Dwarven vixen with a beautiful full luscious beard. ;)

I just had to add that in. Please don't shun me.

In R. A. Salvatore's books, the dwarven battlerager (cannot remember the vulgar little SOB's name) is constantly telling Catti-Brie to grow a beard so she can be a beautiful woman. So I guess shaving amongst the dwarven women of Faerun, at least in the western half, is out.

My question is, do they have hairy chests, as well?

I think Terry Pratchett had it right. Female dwarves have beards and even the male dwarves have trouble identifying females. It might explain why they are so clannish. If you know who everyone is then you know if they are the same sex. Go to the big city and no telling who you are with.
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Why are all hairy females in sci-fi sexy but in fantasy they are "ugly dwarves"?

Thibledorf Pwent was the dwarf's name.

as far as I know they do not have chest hair. any more than human women would.

Oh yah in the forgotten reals books "The Moonshae Trilogy" or mabey it was Moonwell??? any way there was a dwarf that they rescued from the Firblogs lair and they thought she was a male due to the beard although the voice was that of a females. I guess on the Isles the female Dwarves do have beards.

Do you mean the paperdolls? 'Cause I've seen most of the portraits, and the 'stubble factor' is pretty low there.....and man, that Female Elven Warrior with the gold armor is one hot babe.

The Duergar is made up of 2 near-identical Dwarf portraits--one angry-looking one with a full, yellow beard, and his more mellow twin with a red goatee. I changed the colors on the angry one and, since the character is supposed to be very old and tired of the world, I gave him the mellow Dwarf's eyebrows and nose. His skin tone seems to vary from monitor to monitor--I wanted his skin to be noticably grey, but not so dark that he would look like a bearded Drow.

I know what I'll do--I'll give the Female Dwarf some shaggy stubble in lieu of a full beard, and then lower her CHA because she's not sexy. Maybe make her jealous of the prettier females (of any race) in the party.....

Another question: Do Female Half-Orcs have hairy chests? I'd be fun if they did, especially since I finally found a good burly picture for Edna, and gave her her original stats back ( 19/16/17/11/14/9 ).

if i remember correctly(and i may not it's been awhile)
orcs can be very varied in thier general appereance. Ranging from nearly hairless to very hairy, in skin tone from lighter colors to dark, shades of greens and yellows along with more human colors,
Orcs are one of the more consistent dwellers of faruen(living in nearly every climate humans do) so this makes sense.
so a half orc would most likely look like thier orcish parent, although somewhat less so

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