Obama's Cairo Speech
 

This is it. Direct sincere dialouge and clearly defined goals for the common good. Not at all wishy washy about killing terrorists. Responsible not apolagetic. All six parts is a commitment, but worth it. Props to Thomas Jefferson. I wonder how the target audience (Islam, Muslims, ect.) recieved it. I wonder how OBL feels being spirtually destroyed by The POTUS? (LITERALLY) Obama straight up killed evil with words today.

Video pt 1/6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mREdhWq_p2Q

Full Text:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...ama-text_N.htm

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from what I've heard/read via the news, the responses from the Muslim comunity run the full gammit, from "he's just the same as Bush, only deceptive about it" to "I really like what he's got to say".

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This is called diplomacy. I liked it.

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Call me idealistic, but I thought it was pretty bloody good. We need to be able to dream, and to try to turn those dreams into reality. There's nothing wrong with dreaming for peace.

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Here's an article on Muslim reaction to President Obama's speach. Apparently mostly positive.

As for OBL's feelings, he recently sent out a new tape threatening the US blaming Obama for the resurgence of violence in Pakistan, etc. Annalysts believe this is a sign that OBL is afraid of the effect Obama may have on his influence.

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Obama's comments on the fundamental human rights which lead to democracy are especially fitting for the date, June 04. Is this speech censored in China I wonder?

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His words were actually my waking thoughts a few minutes ago. I am impressed and yet I still have that underlying fear at the same time...

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A former president spoke eloquently, yet he understood what the world was about, therefore he carried a big stick. And that is what it's all about. (Speak softly, and carry a big stick). When terrorism is extinguished, and peace reigns throughout the Muslim world, then, and only then, can we judge success or failure of just a speech.

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The great thing about Obama is that he understands politics and how people works, he knows how to shift opinions.

You can't club the whole world into submission. There's battles to be fought but they can't be fought alone, and they can't be fought against potential allies.

You've got to have both a stick and a carrot, and know when to use each one.

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Here is the Taliban's take on the speech:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090606/...bama_taliban_1

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I don't even need to read the article to know what it says. They're against it, they think it's all lies and manipulation, American imperialism, etc. The usual.

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Actually most of the muslims seem to like this new attitude - ofc the hardliners don't like it but if you thought they would I would stoop low and call you naive - Short of handing the fanatics our balls on a silver platter there is nothing we can do to avoid them.
I reconsile myself with being an atheist - considering that all religions seem to be good on paper but the human side always destroys it due to misconceptions or rather just misusing the sacred texts to own benefit.

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So you agree that his well articulated and calculated speeches come from a teleprompter and not his soul then? That regardless of what he reads, it is meaningless unless action is put into place? And words alone can be deceptive? You -da- man!

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Okay, how'd you go from what he said to what you said...?

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Looks more to me like Luvian is cutting all the people of the middleeast over the same measuringtool ( dont know the us expression used ).

Basically its rubbish to say stuff like "I don't need to read the article to know" already we know that it is indeed a narrowminded opinion - simply cause you didn't spend the 10 minutes to relate and objectify the speach - instead you just throw off some personal belief that all from the middle east thinks in one way.

Fact is that fanatics think the same way - narrowminded and not open to new ideas - actually a bit like Bush Jr. - the thing is that Obama seems to think outside the box.

Take for instance the Israel/Paelestinian conflict - A conflict all to understandable when you lean back and look into the history behind the conflict.

If I was a palestinian I would also fight for my country - though I would surely not target civilians ( I am no fanatic - so no Achmed the dead terrorist either ) but if someone came around and said - sorry we promised this land you live on to someone else - move away! I would surely pick up a rock and hurl it at the aggressor.

Israel on the other hand has not had an easy existence - they are what I would call a fighting people and I respect them overly much for this - in the hardship of being unwanted by most arab countries ( hell they even went to war with egypt and syria and kicked butt ) they have thrived - but unfortunately on the expense of the palestinians.

Without being a particular wise person I would say that the best to hope for would be a dual state solution with a seperate Palestinia and Israel - however for this to work Israel have to stop their expansions into Palestinian land.

Nuff of this - I got carried away here and seemed to loose the objective myself - politics always does that to me.

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Sparhawk I'm pretty sure Luvian is refering to just the Taliban's "official response" being so predictable reading about it is unneccsary.

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Exactly how I interpreted it to mean.

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Awwww in case thats what he was on about I stand corrected - or rather...that was what I also meant that only the fanatics are like that...alas if I was wrong on Luvian I offer my humble appologies to him.

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Yeah I meant the Taliban. I should have quoted the part I was replying to.

Uh, what?

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I cannot take credit for saying that, only for putting it into perspective.

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Alignment to your previous preconception of the article.