Bush ranked 36th out of 42 men in "best president" list.
 

"Former President George W. Bush, who left office last month, was ranked 36th out of the 42 men who had been chief executive by the end of 2008, according to a survey conducted by the cable channel C-SPAN.

Bush scored lowest in international relations, where he was ranked 41st, and in economic management, where he was ranked 40th. His highest ranking, 24th, was in the category of pursuing equal justice for all. He was ranked 25th in crisis leadership and vision and agenda setting."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090215/...ing_presidents

Anyone else think even that is a little high? Well I knew it was down the end there somewhere I thought maybe he would be 41st. Still, he ranked the lowest of all presidents as far as foreign relations are concerned, no surprises there. Lincoln holds the number 1 spot, with Clinton jumping to number 15 from 21 in the last 8 years. I guess comparison makes the heart fonder!

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24th in "pursuing equal justice" and 25th in "crisis leadership" speaks volumes about his true leadership abilities, which for the most part many, you included, cannot see the fact he made the right decisions when they needed to be made. This poll pretty much solidifies what I knew, and told you earlier, that in due time his true abilities would come to the forefront! And to think, this only 20 odd days since he left office, imagine how high he will climb in four years!

Good post! :thumbsup:

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Thank you. And what a quick response! The reason I included the other two ratings rather than just the overall rating was to demonstrate how, even when something is staring you in the face, you will only see the parts you want to see and ignore the rest. And guess what? You fell for it :P

He landed in the bottom on the rankings list. He is actually residing in the handful of presidents that were the worst to ever take position, the place were crooks and scandals and impeachments and resignations lie. My goodness what a mess.

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Fell for it? Hardly. I was quite frankly pissed, you beat me to the post! I had actually just finished reading the article, copied it and was headed here to post it. However, it would have been a bit different than yours, but still would have highlighted the points you fail to see, even thou they are staring you in the face. :doh:

Again, you made a good post! :thumbsup: 36 for somebody that you hate so much? That's political nirvana is it not? I'm surprised he was not ranked lower, this poll did come from C-SPAN mind you! But hey, 36 for 20 odd days from office? We will take it, and again, lets see where he lands on the next one!

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Excellent! He has been brought up on how many charges?
Sued how many times?
Impeached over what?

Whereas, a known crook (whitewater), scandalous liar (Paula Jones), and impeached for his actions (Monica Lewenski), landed 15th! WOW!

I guess if you smile, tell a lie and deny, deny, deny, until you can't, then make an apology, you can win world renown public relations?

I guess I need to reconsider running for Constable!

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Oh me too, I said above I was surprised he wasn't 41. Still, he was 5 away from it. But again, we will agree to disagree. You love your man, and you know what they say, love is blind. Just don't misread. 36 not 6, 16 or 26, lol. Thirty sixth place. If you are happy with that...let's just say it raises more questions than it answers. And most of them aren't my business. I will say, when you have low expectations it is very hard to be dissapointed - maybe this is the case?

It's just the rest of the world seems to have finally woken up (excluding you that is). Hell, even some of his supporters here on IW elected our current president! Either ways, he's out, we're all happy he is out, and things can only get better from the cesspool of crap that happend in the last (almost) decade. Thus, like I told you, his legacy is written. I think his points may change in the future yes, I think they will go down as the economy hums on. I wouldn't be surprised to find him in the 39 region after a few months. But like you, I will take 36 as sealing this guys circus of a run and count my lucky blessings that we didn't allow him to reach 42 on the list by changing the game in the house.

C-span is usually quite accurate and nuetral from what I have seen? (you said you just finished reading it yourself).

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Love, hardly, but he was the best man available for the position, and that I will puncture the heart with, (or to the death for clarification). Like me, he doesn't sugar coat anything, nor did he smile at you, just told it straight. With that, and understanding how many of you disliked him, our understanding that he could not bring things about in such a limited time, allowed us to accept the fact that he would be ridiculed, and those that supported him as well, for eternity. However, to land 36th overall, and 24th and 25th in the areas that many had personal dissatisfaction with is truly remarkable. Even for C-SPAN, which you well might know has some ethical dilemmas of it's own right, and a couple titles, one of which earned them a "ethical dunce" award in 2005. But, hey I understand that as well, nobody, or entity is perfect right? So then, why should the raters who put a known crook who was impeached at 15, and a high ranked leader at 36? Well again, money makes the world go around, and C-SPAN is owned by National Cable Satellite Corporation, who by the way, has a Kennedy as a senior officer.

As the economy fails, the US sinks into an even deeper deflation tail spin, the current cabinet will be at the helm, spending trillions and flying around the continent on the taxpayers credit like life is grand, and throwing more money at things can only make it better. Soon, the US government will own everything through bailout money, and everybody who voted for the bama-rama will wonder how the heck did we become a socialist government! Then in a few years, we will re-look the presidents by rank, and see where G.W. Bush lands as a person who did what needed to be done, in an attempt to serve justice to all, and leadership when real situations were present.

Besides, who gives a rats ass about what the world thinks of us anyway? It is the US who has become the world order, police, and saviour of all situations! If we want to enjoy our capitalist lifestyle, then how dare somebody say we can't!

I leave you with: What would happen if we didn't answer the call?

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This.

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After perusing this list, I'm now even more impressed G.W scored in the top 36. That in-itself can only correlate to the fact he must have done more good for the nation than the left is willing to accept, and his overall character is not as evil as some would wish it to be, and has an greater effect on enough of these "experts" to prove he was not, is not, and will not be the worst president. And to think, others have been impeached, but were such wonderful "politicians" they ranked much higher. One can only muse and research who these "experts" really are! I think the only anti- missing is SpiritWarrior in the true sense.

http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSu...ticipants.aspx

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Go ahead and enjoy it...just know the price that the rest of the world is paying in order to keep you in your comfortable lifestyle...

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That was an assault launched to silence any further opposition, not an assault on all of man kind. For as we all too well know, the state of our economy has an effect on the world's economy, rather a true effect or a speculative one, it is an effect.

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I'm not sure I understand. I didn't mention anything about an assault.

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Good Lord, you're not being sarcastic, are you? 'Saviour of all situations'? Do you honestly believe that? I don't usually bother to answer such threads but - it boggles the mind, truly. 'World order' - the world does not answer to America. Your nation may hold a great deal of sway, but you do not rule this planet. Stop acting as if you do, or rather, stop implying that you do. Enjoy your capitalist lifestyle all you want, but don't force it down the throats of others.

What would happen if you didn't answer the call? Certain countries might be worse off for it, but there would be less of your dead, and less of your influence, and yes, there might be a lot more causalities, but no one would accuse your nation of 'meddling' or sticking its nose where it isn't wanted, or for that matter, hate you nearly as much. I'm sure you have plenty of friends and allies, but you can't deny that there are many in this world that despise your nation and whether they pose a threat to it or not is irrelevant in that it does not alter the fact they hate your way of life. What they do with that hatred is very much relevant, however, and you've every right - just as every other sovereign nation on the face of this planet has a right - to defend yourselves. How you defend yourselves is another matter entirely though. Then we enter the sticky situation of 'pre-emptive strikes' and what have you - which is straying from my point. It will be interesting to see what happens the day you hold your forces back and don't 'answer the call'. I'm sure the world will be watching with baited breath.

Oh, and before I get flamed for being anti-American, do try to remember that Britain is supposedly allied with you. Questioning how you conduct your ideals of 'freedom' and 'justice' is not an attack on America itself; such values are to be upheld and supported. How they are is another matter entirely. Just to be clear here.

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I can only guess you completely missed what Dplax posted and my response back!

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No, no I saw it. I just fail to see how it ties in with my post - beyond your comment on World Economy and an assault against further opposition rather than an assault on all mankind. I thought I'd already mentioned though, abet briefly, in my post in acknowledgement to you raising such points? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. *ponder*. Regardless - I still raised points Dplax did not. Thoughts?

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Ok, I went "there" (in type). As doing such, the opposition "here" has been silenced. ATM, two of you have come along to sort out the debris, and probably not *understanding* the "tone" of the thread and replies herein. Thereby my capitalist parody has caught your attention, which was an assault to a liberal view, which in turn "silenced" said liberal.

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Who are you calling "liberal"? Watch where you wave that filthy word around. :P FYI, our 'liberals' are sellouts imho. Anyone who tries to hand Britain's sovereignty over - be it to Europe or any other government body - shouldn't be voted for. I'll have you know I'm a firm believer in monarchy. Queen and country and all that jazz. :P. I think we've strayed from the original topic though.

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In short, you just got pwnt :D

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Well said liberal "WAS" silenced, but has made an encore appearance, to return to glean in their inability to follow through with what was said, or, in more laymen's terms, a "flip-flop" decision has been recorded. :D

And, by the way, it's your thread! :doh:

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Oh stop, lol. You started replying with nothing but links alone so I felt you had nothing more to say. I have long since left the battlefield in victory while you stand there screaming "rematch". You should know that it takes a good soldier to realize when he's defeated. But I suppose denial serves you in more ways than one huh? :D

As for my triumphant return, my curiousity was piqued when others began giving you a hard time for that paragaph which you SHOULD have known well would spark interference. I made this thread because I felt that your many, many threads in this forum with zero replies or replies by me alone (sympathy vote) could use a rest, so I thought i'd mix it up.

Now, are we done? :)

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Rematch?

Your man crush was impeached! Mine has no lawsuits! :doh:

Your current man is following a path which has already been paved once, and we have 3 generations of welfare recipients from it. :2cents:

I'd call that a sad situation.

Silence is acceptance, therefore, many reads with only one post, by you that is, says there must be a lot of acceptance with what is presented, and the only na sayer is, you!

That paragraph was intended to spark an interest, mainly in the parody of the events that can be held as truth, and a 'hard time"? Not so much, more like disbelief! And that is where I excel, never underestimate the fact, that the human factor is "not-predictable", and can in fact produce effects that can make...

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We lack the political conscience and will to give Bush the justice he deserves. No POTUS will ever be brought upon the gallows pole.

I will forever and always be suprised when seemingly smart people support that guy. One of the mysteries of the universe...

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Okay lol, now you're just grasping at straws. It's over, his AND your run. Retain your dignity!

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Really? If you want to back out, the door is over there, don't let it hit you on the arse as you pass through.

If you think you have achieved something here, you are very mistaken.

Face it, G.W. is not where you wished him to be. He is not the person your liberal media makes him out to be, and he has no lawsuits against him. Thereby, game, set and match.

I have said it and will say it again, I wish the current administration well, but will not sit idly by as the country moves from a democratic, capitalist society into a socialist republic. And I do know of thousands of like minded that will be there to prevent the final travesty of this nation from transpiring.

Oh, and to eat a slice of crow pie. If I do not reply to something within a persons post, it means it was ignored, and thereby through default non existent. I must do better in that department in order create lengthy posts.

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What you don't understand is I already left, in a trail of blazing glory, but you called me back in by grumbling to someone else that I left and so I did you a favor and popped back in, saw that you had nothing new to say, mentioned it to you, and now you want me to leave again. Do you even wonder why no-one responds to you? lol

Without me, who would reply to all those baity threads you take so much time in creating here? Admit it, you just missed me. Man-crush right there :)

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What I understand is you left with your arse on fire and your tail between your legs. You might have thought to have sparked my interest in your thread, and coaxed me into it. But, as clear as it is day, I jumped into your kool-aid with both muddy boots on, fresh from the horse stable at that. Spiced it up a bit with some "Texas Gun-Powder" (dried Texas jalapeño peppers) and let it simmer.

Then played a bit of parlay with you, and hung you out to dry with a clinton error parody on capitalism. Posted a few things in your absence, which took all of your remaining ammunition from you, mainly the democrat heavy list of voters. Then reminded you your main squeeze is: 1. An indicted sexual abuser who was sued and paid $850,000. 2. A money launderer/racketeer through his "WhiteWaterGate" episode. 3. And a repeat sexual offender who was impeached.

One would think you would have stayed gone, but alas, you were enticed to return, and when you do come back, it's to claim s self righteous, boulder dash victory. Victory of what I ask? How a known crook who smiles, lies, and says, oh, sorry about those sexual abuse charges, can outnumber better presidents than he was, but didn't smile and say sorry? Good one.

Lastly, as I have mentioned before, a high read with low to no post counts means a lot. Silence is acceptance. You however, are a die hard liberal who cannot allow the slightest bad-mouthing, even if the person in question is a certified crook. And to think, G.W. has no lawsuits! :2cents:

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Well, I *did* give you the opportunity to retain your dignity...but the time for that has long since passed. My god man, I am beginning to suspect a neurosis at this point. I don't even need to respond, you make whole threads by yourself. I admit, I do enjoy screwing with you though, I have noticed a sure pattern of predictability. That, and the fact that you always seem to mention either guns, shooting or the military, hehe. I could almost start a pool! *Ponders*
Take even this thread, I knew you couldn't resist returning, it's like clockwork. Hey, this means my thread was a success doesn't it? All these responses :D

But good post :thumbsup: Made me laugh, although not as much as your previous ones (you slackin'). Keep it up though! And watch out, I may respond to one of your many lonely threads here when I feel like I need a lift and a laugh. It could be any one of them and it could happen at any time, depending on where I feel like handing out the pwning, so watch out!

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*grabs a bucket of popcorn*

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*Encourages you to stay*

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I wonder if a type of post-traumatic stress disorder could cause delusions of grandeur. This would explain the certain psychological state of a certain someones megalomania.