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D*Ranged 03-22-2003 11:42 PM

Just started bard again...got sick of my Cleric Ranger (or should I say multiclass chars, they level up SOOOOOOO slow! [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img] )

Just to play this "interestingly" [img]smile.gif[/img] , I made a chaotic neutral bard.
(rate it, please?)
Name: Kyris
Race: Human
Class: Bard
Alignment: CN
Stats:
str 15
dex 18
con 16
int 18
wis 10
cha 18

And what should I wear throughout the adventure? What could my party consist of to make it interesting? (Remember, my char. is CN so a party that could be interesting, not some entirely Good or Evil)

Vedran 03-23-2003 06:17 AM

Another powergamer...
The most interesting thing is to have random stats, ie. keep pressing "reroll" as much as you like, but without adjusting any of the abilities. Having 18/18/18/... (for warriors) or 18/18/16/... for non-warriors is very unrealistic. That is almost godlike, no person in the world has such stats.

Flaming Fist Enforcer 03-23-2003 05:26 PM

No, not an ordinary person. But a child of Bhaal, a semi-god... Why not? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

One more thing: you are roleplaying, right? So your chaotic neutral bard can think of Drizzt as a drow in surface and therefore a threat. I mean, you'll kill the man, right? So take his armor. It's ideal for Bards 'cause (not sure of this, correct me if I'm wrong) you can cast spells while wearing it.

SixOfSpades 03-23-2003 06:29 PM

The "best natural" style of rolls (keep hitting Reroll as much as you want, but don't use the + or - buttons to move points around) has always been my favorite way to roll. This allows you to have stats that are MUCH better than the average bear, but not so stupid as 18(00)/18/18/10/10/3.

There is *NO* armor in BG1 that will allow a Bard to cast spells. So your best bet is to fill your spellbook with non-combat spells, pre-combat spells, or spells that you can safely cast from out of the enemies' sight range (Identify, Invisibility, Mirror Image, Haste, Resist Fear, Fireball, Web, etc), and let someone else handle the direct-damage stuff (Magic Missile, Flame Arrow, etc). Of course, you can always wear armor while using Wands.

Suggested party:
You
Kagain
Kivan
Imoen
Tiax
Branwen
2 Goods, 2 Neutrals, 2 Evils.
2.25 Warriors (Kagain, Kivan, Bard)
1.5 Clerics (Branwen, Tiax)
2 Thieves (Tiax, Imoen, Bard)
1.75 Mages (Imoen, Bard)

D*Ranged 03-23-2003 06:45 PM

And...if I take her to BG2, what would be the suggested kit?

SixOfSpades 03-23-2003 07:03 PM

The Blade kit slaps the Jester and Skald around so hard, it ain't even funny.

karlosovic 03-23-2003 09:16 PM

I just started a new evil bard in BG2, and I chose straight bard. i didnt want the penalties of the kits. i usually do the same thing with rangers and mages, i find the penalties often out-weigh the advantages of specialists.

I also just finished a run-through of BG1 and I'd have to say, my favorite NPC was coran, the fighter/thief in the cloakwood. minsc is always fun as well, but you might be looking for a change. the mage at the end of nashkel mines is also pretty funny in his eternal gloominess [img]smile.gif[/img] (Xan i think) plus he has a cool moonblade.

D*Ranged 03-23-2003 11:05 PM

I decided to go for:

Kivan
Kagain
Safana
Xan
Branwen

I got Kivan, Kagain, Branwen and Montaron (soon - to - be replaced :D ). That makes 1 good, 4 neutral and 1 evil, which is a good neutral party (Not the TRULY neutral party as it is impossible with the no. of neutral aligned members... [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img] )

[ 03-23-2003, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: D*Ranged ]

InsaneBane 03-24-2003 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vedran:
Another powergamer...
The most interesting thing is to have random stats, ie. keep pressing "reroll" as much as you like, but without adjusting any of the abilities. Having 18/18/18/... (for warriors) or 18/18/16/... for non-warriors is very unrealistic. That is almost godlike, no person in the world has such stats.

Another powergamer...
Yes - and? (I am a powergamer too, and I am proud of it [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img] . I do not see powergaming as the opposite of role playing. A character/player can easily contain both 'philosofies')

The most interesting thing is to have random stats
Remember that this is YOUR opinion. Some like to play a super man/woman while some like to play an underdog

keep pressing "reroll" as much as you like, but without adjusting any of the abilities
Others think that it is cheating to roll more than once. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Having 18/18/18/... (for warriors) or 18/18/16/... for non-warriors is very unrealistic. That is almost godlike, no person in the world has such stats.
Which world? The posibility to roll Str 18, Dex 18 and Con 18 is:¨
1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6 * 1/6 = 9.92*10^-8. Which also can be written as 1 in a 10,077,696 chance. If there are 6 billion people in the world (the world the players live in) that would result in approximately (on average for worlds of this size) 595 people having the 18/18/18 score. If on the other hand we talk about the world where the characters live there are some special rules applied here. In fact 18s are much more common than some might think. Even 19, 20, 21 and so on are not that uncommon :D

I am sorry to chop your post to pieces, but sometimes I just cannot resist ;)

[img]graemlins/greenbounce.gif[/img]
Insane

[ 03-24-2003, 04:45 AM: Message edited by: InsaneBane ]

karlosovic 03-24-2003 08:04 AM

that post reminded me of a pet peev of mine. composite longbows need S-18 ? why ??? that means that only people of 'superhuman' strength can use one. news flash: I am not superhumanly strong, but I can certainly draw a composite longbow.

/muttering


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