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Timber Loftis 05-26-2005 11:39 AM

As I said, I began reading Jedi Academy books -- which came highly recommended. It is true that the goofiness I'm thinking of actually occurred in the prior books (which I haven't read), and I'll give Anderson the benefit of the doubt -- he may just be having a hard time summarizing and working with Zahn's stuff. Still, Luke as a Sith has be confuzzled.

Morgeruat 05-26-2005 12:28 PM

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Ilander 05-27-2005 12:50 AM

That was a comic storyline, Timber...Palpatine's clone turned him to the dark side, blah blah blah...not gonna say much 'bout it ;)

Dark Empire, Dark Empire II, and Empire's End for reference :D

krunchyfrogg 05-27-2005 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
lol, Hooper would be damn proud

"Black rage....Black rage!!!" [/QB]
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Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
Whats a Nubian?
::wipes tear from eye::

You guys make me proud!

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Originally posted by Morgeruat:
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Probably the only scene that was expected (seeing as Yoda set the scene for it) and never came was a little something between Ben and an etherial Qui-gon Jinn. Something to settle Obi's mental turmoil having trained and battled the new Sith Annakin, and indicating that the prophecy is not lost and they must look to the children for (dare I say it) "New Hope" :D

But see that's just it, he DID fulfill the prophesy, there is now balance in the Force, 2 Jedi, and 2 Sith, rather than scads of Jedi and virtually no Sith. [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]I think the balance is restored in RotJ, when Vader kills Palpatine.

Jorath Calar 05-29-2005 04:15 AM

Dark Empire is the biggest bullshit Star Wars Storyline in all the dark alley of the dreaded EU... Was Dark Empire 2 the one where "Palpatines son" the F%$&$$% cyclop is in?... geez I hated those 2 so much. I read them when I was a member of theForce.net forums and got into such argument with other members about the EU that we almost came to blows... (if we hadn't been on seperate hemisphere ofcourse... [img]smile.gif[/img] ) But it's the closest thing I have been to getting banned on a forum board... [img]smile.gif[/img]

But in short I hate most of the EU, specially when it takes the canon from the movies and rapes it... and like Timber mentioned, written for children aged 7-9 with IQs of 2-4.
Only ones I enjoyed reading was the Thrawn Trilogy and the Shadows of the Empire novell

[ 05-29-2005, 04:21 AM: Message edited by: Jorath Calar ]

Ilander 05-29-2005 09:29 AM

It's weird...I've read them too, and the summary in Star Wars: The Essential Chronology is clearer and better written.

Oh, THAT's the best idea for people who want to know what happens in the EU...read The Essential Chronology. It works wonders toward catching you up, and also helps direct you toward the books you would like more.

Dreamer128 05-30-2005 09:40 AM

Hm.. gotta admit, I found the plot a bit weak.

(spoilers)

Palpatine: I'm evil, I admit it.
Anakin: It cannot be, I shall warn the Jedi.

Later
Palpatine: (shooting force-lightning at Windu) UNLIMITED POWER! Mwhahaha
Ahem.. the jedi are evil. They seek to overthrow democracy.
Anakin: of course, how come I didn't see this earlier? Let's commit genocide.

Palpatine: (*before the senate*) L'etat, c'est moi. And as of today, you're all my galactic b*tches. Har har har.
Senate: hurrah! Democracy was getting old anyway.

Yoda: (*fails to eliminate Palpatine*) when at first you don't succeed, flee to the other side of the galaxy and let the big bad consolidate his power.

Kakero 05-30-2005 11:40 AM

I got questions. YAY! :D

Why did Sidius choose to rescue Anakin? He said something about " I sense Vader is in a grave danger ". However he didn't go and rescue Darth Maul or Count Dooku? Is it because of this choose one thing?

Another thing, In Episode 2 when the bounty hunter fire his flamethrower at Mace Windu and caused him to fall down. He is able to land on his feet safely down at the arena. In episode 3 he doesn't seem to be able to do so after Sidius fired his lightning at him? Why ?

Also, How come Darth Vader couldn't perform the lightning attack? Same as Darth Maul? But Sidius and Count Dooku is able to do that?

Also how come Yoda seem to struggle to fight with Sidius but Mace Windu nearly defeat him if it wasn't for Anakin intervention? Is Mace Windu is stronger than Yoda?

How come none of the Jedi sense or detect that Palpatine is Darth Sidius?

Annoying? I stop now. :D

Dron_Cah 05-30-2005 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Kakero:
I got questions. YAY! :D

Why did Sidius choose to rescue Anakin? He said something about " I sense Vader is in a grave danger ". However he didn't go and rescue Darth Maul or Count Dooku? Is it because of this choose one thing?
Well, Anakin is the chosen one, and Palps is running out of possible apprentices, especially with the eradication of the Jedi, and all.

Another thing, In Episode 2 when the bounty hunter fire his flamethrower at Mace Windu and caused him to fall down. He is able to land on his feet safely down at the arena. In episode 3 he doesn't seem to be able to do so after Sidius fired his lightning at him? Why ?
Well, there are theories that Windu isn't dead, but we wont go into that. The fall from the senate building is much MUCH further than that on Geonosis. We're talking kilometers, here.

Also, How come Darth Vader couldn't perform the lightning attack? Same as Darth Maul? But Sidius and Count Dooku is able to do that?
First, they are Sith masters. Second, Maul seemed to focus on other things, like lightsaber usage, and the like. I don't know about Vader. He could have, I'm sure, but maybe he preferred the "choke a bitch" move? Hard telling.

Also how come Yoda seem to struggle to fight with Sidius but Mace Windu nearly defeat him if it wasn't for Anakin intervention? Is Mace Windu is stronger than Yoda?
I think Windu is the combat master for a reason. Yoda focuses less on combat, and more on the all-around. Mace was more combat oriented, and especially to do with ye olde lightsaber. He is not stronger, just more skilled in one area, perhaps.

How come none of the Jedi sense or detect that Palpatine is Darth Sidius?
Force stealth is one thing. Also, I seem to remember that his presence was weakening them, somehow.

Annoying? I stop now. :D
Certainly not annoying, continue with questions if you like! [img]smile.gif[/img]


Cerek 05-30-2005 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Dron_Cah:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kakero:

Also how come Yoda seem to struggle to fight with Sidius but Mace Windu nearly defeat him if it wasn't for Anakin intervention? Is Mace Windu is stronger than Yoda?
I think Windu is the combat master for a reason. Yoda focuses less on combat, and more on the all-around. Mace was more combat oriented, and especially to do with ye olde lightsaber. He is not stronger, just more skilled in one area, perhaps.</font>[/QUOTE]<font color=plum>I also think that Sidius wasn't fightin Windu with his full effort. He wanted Anakin to think Windu was about to defeat him so that Anakin would intervene and take one step closer to the Dark Side. Once Windu dropped his guard for a moment, Sidius had a remarkably sudden surge of power to blast him out the window. I believe it was yet another way in which Sidius manipulated Anakin to choose the Dark Side.

Now I have a question of my own.

WHY are there only 2 Siths at any one time - the master and the apprentice?

I've not read any of the books, so I don't understand why there is a limit on the number of Siths that can exist at one time.</font>


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