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johnny 01-30-2003 06:20 PM

Dominant for the last 10 years ? Phew, pretty onesided sport. Doesn't it get kinda boring after a while ? I mean, i enjoyed formula 1 very much, but lately i don't bother watching anymore, since you already know who will win in the end. At least baseball comes up with surprising winners every now and then. Like this year for instance, what a shock went through the world of baseball when the Angels of all teams brought home the title.

Leonis 01-30-2003 06:26 PM

Dominant doesn't mean they won everything...many matches were edge of the seat nail biters, including the recent decider of the one-day series between England, Sri Lanka and Australia. England really lifted their game and came within inches of taking it to a third final match...

But it's also nice to see your team trounce the opposition now and then. And again. And again. :D

Bardan the Slayer 01-30-2003 09:45 PM

Cricket it not only immensly boring compared to baseball, but one thing in the quote made sense to me - cricket *is* a game heavily influenced by the pitch. This is why it is a nonsensical sport. If boxing depended more on who could adapt to the tilt/shape/spring/texture of the ring, i'm sure people would find it equally ridiculous. If the 100m sprint was affected by hazards of variable height and size in the paths of the runners, i don't think the Olympics would have survived quite as well as it has.

I have no doubt that cricketers are more skilled at running, hitting and catching balls than baseball players, but just because the players are more skilful deos not make the game better. it just means that their talents are being wasted by playing a slow, boring, thoroughly uninteresting game.

Baseball if a cool game. Cricket is a time-filler.

Yorick 01-31-2003 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bardan the Slayer:
Cricket it not only immensly boring compared to baseball, but one thing in the quote made sense to me - cricket *is* a game heavily influenced by the pitch. This is why it is a nonsensical sport. If boxing depended more on who could adapt to the tilt/shape/spring/texture of the ring, i'm sure people would find it equally ridiculous. If the 100m sprint was affected by hazards of variable height and size in the paths of the runners, i don't think the Olympics would have survived quite as well as it has.

I have no doubt that cricketers are more skilled at running, hitting and catching balls than baseball players, but just because the players are more skilful deos not make the game better. it just means that their talents are being wasted by playing a slow, boring, thoroughly uninteresting game.

Baseball if a cool game. Cricket is a time-filler.

Well I guess boring is subjective. I find baseball incrediblly frustrating, and cricket very very interesting. Cricket has subtleties of course. A certain level of intelligence is needed to appreciate it's finer points. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D Boring it certainly isn't.

Secondly the pitch DOES make it interesting. Other sports affected by the ground/conditions?
1.Tennis. Clay requires a different approach to grass and hardcourt. No-one calls tennis ridiculous.
2.Surfing. Big swell, small swell. Many variables in surfing that bring out differences in approach. No-one calls surfing ridiculous.
3.Rugby. The Northern hemisphere teams play a different game to the southern hemisphere because of the effect rain and sun have on the ground.
4.Football. Same as rugby, except the dry grounds of Africa bring out different styles to the soggy cold northern European grounds. No-one calls football ridiculous.
5.Golf. The different ground conditions are the whole point. Golf is hardly ridiculous.

Iron_Ranger 01-31-2003 02:47 AM

Well after reading this ENTIRE THREAD I have come to the conclusion that people take sports way to seriously :D

Well yeah, I am a rabid hockey fan, and have had my fair share of debates on hockey vs other sports, but...yikes..

But I think I will agree that Manchester United is probably the most well known team in any sport. Even I know who they are..

But doesnt that depend on how much you pay attention to other sports? I mean I dont watch soccer that much, but I do at least acknowledge it..You know what I mean? A hardcore soccer fan that cares only about soccer, of course he isnt going to know who the Montreal Canadains are, but a soccer fan who at least pays attention to other sports might.

Yorick 01-31-2003 03:50 AM

You know what I'd love to see?

Australia vs the New York Yankees. 2 games. One baseball game and one cricket game. See which team adapts to the others rules better. Would be interesting yes? All we'd need is a way to make it rake in millions and it'd happen right?

johnny 01-31-2003 07:10 AM

Do they have to wear those silly outfits that make them look if they are going on a picknick ? In that case i won't watch, it's too humiliating. :D

Davros 01-31-2003 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
Do they have to wear those silly outfits that make them look if they are going on a picknick ? In that case i won't watch, it's too humiliating. :D
??? - you're talking about the baseball uniforms aren't you? I thought you were on the baseball side of the discussion Johnny - wassup - are you defecting. No, I dont think the basball togs would be too humiliating - I think they are a strong part of the history of the game. I think that history deserves retention.

Keraptisdm 01-31-2003 09:13 AM

I believe Johnny is talking about the Cricket picnic outfits. :D We could also discuss popularity vs marketability. For instance, how much does a TV comercial spot cost during the championship games? I would wager that a TV spot during the Baseball World Series costs a lot more than for the Cricket Championships. Just another point to ponder, that's all.

Davros 01-31-2003 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keraptisdm:
I believe Johnny is talking about the Cricket picnic outfits. :D We could also discuss popularity vs marketability. For instance, how much does a TV comercial spot cost during the championship games? I would wager that a TV spot during the Baseball World Series costs a lot more than for the Cricket Championships. Just another point to ponder, that's all.
WOOHOO a nibble - and a catch [img]smile.gif[/img] - subtitle not his strong suit ;) - possibly a measure - could be a keeper [img]smile.gif[/img]

LOL - the cost of an ad [img]smile.gif[/img] - well I have heard of some strange concepts as a basis of comparison ....... and some of those are starting to make more sense now. I think I have put most of the marketing points back on the first page. There is BIG money in baseball just as there is big money in ALL professional sports played in America. Heck, there is good money in poker and bull riding and all kinds of sports over there. Why - because marketing sport is as big - if not a biger evet that the sport itself.


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