First, about your home state. Yes they provide good hospitality to the armed forces in the region. And I do believe the term "Kentucky Windage" came from one of the great shots from the 'Bluegrass State', Daniel Boone maybe.

Where does Donut hail from? Maybe he doesn't realize it, or maybe he does. But that's a model 1837 French cannon, maybe that's why the target is what it is??

From the Eminem show, correct, that is one of the guest tracks, O.B. Trice if my memory holds true.

What do you think, tracks: 10,14, 16-17 ought to be just fine for a good understanding of what our youth is listening / thinking about.

He didn't kill 20 people in 60 seconds though!

These are excellent points, Oblivion! [img]smile.gif[/img]

(BTW, I do own two handguns and have found that those who don't obey the laws have made it harder for those of us who do to get a gun now!)

He didn't kill 20 people in 60 seconds though! </font>[/QUOTE]And how often does that happen? Besides, gimme a Cordoba, a tank of gas, 3 grams of PCP and a lowbrow mug from Chicago, and I'll not only have him kill 20 people in 60 seconds, he'll run over a cop, set fire to a church and crash the car into a school, maiming 3, killing none. All 3 would happen to be tax auditors. Are you saying we should illegalize certain cars due to their high structural integrity?

He didn't kill 20 people in 60 seconds though! </font>[/QUOTE]This is a statement born of fear and nothing more. While a firearm allows for injuries to be dealt at a distance and some even have high rates of fire, dealing a leathal wound still requires proper placement. Also, given the both the frightening sound a firearm emmits alerting everyone in range of the danger plus the good ole flight or fight instinct, the only ways this many people are gonna die in 60s are if they are all in a tightly confined space and cannot flee or the shooter is dealing with some serious military hardware. You just will not see this mortality rate with a pistol or even most assault weapons.

Even in the infamous Columbine incident, a confined space if you ask me, only 8 students, 1 teacher were killed and about 20 more wounded and that took longer than 20 min.

As have been said before, there are many other ways to deal death that are more effictive and even more silent than a firearm. Do we ban these items as well? They very likely reside in your home or tool shed.

Glad to hear it, Felix, I'll pass it along. I have a few friends from KY enjoying a desert tour right now, and I know they give a damn.
Those tracks are:
10. Without Me
14. Hailie's Song
16. When the Music Stops
17. Say What You Say

Yes, all good tracks. It's not just about what the youth is listening to, it's about truth, even if truth has to come at you in an offensive and tongue-in-cheek way. IMO, it's what we all should be thinking about. Young at heart, right?

Oi! Will ya'll just let the Topic Die before someone get's a baseball bat to the head (literally or metaphorically)

Hey, just because you are the topic starter, does not mean 'we are going to bow down and let you tell us when to end it'.

So be careful how you go about [img]graemlins/rambo.gif[/img] it while your [img]graemlins/dancing.gif[/img] .

You are welcome to stop posting at your earliest convenience. Otherwise, bugger off -- and I mean that in the nicest of ways. :D

*Skips some of the discussion cause he just wants to add his two cents*

I'm all for gun ownership, but I'm also a little for gun control.

If gun control can work in such a way where few criminals can get guns illegally, then I'm for it. (Being realistic here, like someone said, laws don't always work. However, that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a law as long as it doesn't violate someone's rights, IMO)

I'm all for gun ownership, if those gun owners are responsible. I think anyone who owns a gun should have to take a gun safety class as well as be required to keep the gun/s away from those who shouldn't even have easy access to them.

I'm all for gun ownership of those semi-automatic or automatic weapons, as long as they're for collecting and just for competitions and such. I see no point in someone owning a machine gun just to protect their family or hunting.

Shooting Competitions, ok, what I mentioned above, nope. I need a good reason why a machine gun does a better job of protecting oneself or family than a regular handgun other than that it shoots faster than a handgun or is more accurate (Or more likely to kill).

I'm no gun-owner myself, seeing as how I lack the strength to even pull the trigger. :D