Now, now, uss... [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img]

No need for physical threats, we all love each other here at Ironworks, we do NOT threaten to kill them for having different opinions on a game (even if it is NWN). Rather, they are souls to be pitied, since they have not yet seen the light... :D

Seriously...take a chill pill, it's just a game. If Megabot doesn't like it, then he's entitled to. I just feel bad for him wasting his money an all. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]Dammit, i gotta stop making jokes that can easily be taken seriously :D !
nah, im not really pissed off or anything. i know its just a game. i also didnt like NwN at first but now im loving it [img]smile.gif[/img] . i really thing Megabot will learn to like this game in time ;) .
Megabot, i am sorry for threatening to kill you :D i wont do that anymore. but i can still hope :D :D ..

Uh... he has a bow. Select USE RANGED WEAPONS and he hangs back behind you and shoots arrows. By the way, STAND GROUND makes him stay put, but he will defend himself if attacked. GUARD ME has him attack whoever is attacking you, whether archers shooting arrows from far away or some dude with an axe, 2 feet away from him. Also you get the HEAL ME option when you have an NPC that has healing powers and was a general statement, not specific to Tomi. Each of the NPCs have their own special ability.

You probably should of researched the game before buying it. Nobody said it was going to be BG3. It's a single character game where you could play by yourself or play online with others. Anyway, you can sort of have more than one NPC, there are animal companions and summon creatures. ;)

1. Megabot is an idiot. Sorry the first 34 seconds of a 70-80 HOUR campaign were not to your liking... Perhaps if the makers had thrown a Demilich and a Tarrasque in the prelude it would have been more to your liking?

How 'bout NO npc's to talk to? No interaction whatsoever. Just you and the enemy?

Of course the prelude isn't the most exciting thing in the history of video-gaming... it's function is to explain the rules to people who haven't played the D&D3 rules yet, and how to function in the video environment.

2. You don't like the Module that comes with the game?

MAKE YOUR OWN.

3. You don't like the voices that come with the game?

MAKE YOUR OWN.

4. You don't like the PC pics that come with the game?

MAKE YOUR OWN.

(do you see a trend forming?)

5. Feats aren't that confusing. They all have a decent description in the game. Or you can always use the "Recommended" button.

6. "Yes, but apparently the strength of NWN is in multiplayer, so we will have to put up with a powergamer Barbarian/Monk/Assassin/Mage/Palladin/Druid. Won't we. "

Let them. With only 20 levels to split with 3 classes, they'll be mediocre in all of them...

7. Stop Freaking Whining.

calling somebody an idiot for not liking the game that you like is not good oldbittercraig.

If he had sunk some significant time in the game and given a laundry list of issues based on his playing experience, I would give him some credit and accept his opinion, as he had significant experience to draw upon.

BUT, if he can call the game boring based on two minutes in the prelude, and have his opinion respected as legitimate, I can also take two sentences of his post to formulate my opinion of him.

Fine, you are right I should have researched the game a little more before buying it.

However, I am curious to know if you or anyone else who is trying to defend this game's combat/party style would rather keep the current version of the game, or would rather play my version of the game? Remember let's try and be honest here.

My version:
Everything is the same except for; the Gypsy stereotypes, the dull/characterless male voices, the goofy looking male portraits (mostly), the silly screaming voices in the background (even after you have killed all the bad guys in that area), the one henchperson rule and DESIGN (YUCK), maybe a few aspects of the combat style, and much much more.

Now you're going to tell me that you would rather have the current version?!?!....I know it's tough, but be honest now.

OK, calm down everyone. Craig, we all have differing opinions to the game but there is no need to call people idiots because they have a different opinion. Some people love spaghetti, other people don’t. This is a GAME. No need for personal insults here. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Thiefprowess, I know what point you’re trying to make, but your post about child-molesters, religious fanatics etc. was completely out of line and has nothing to do with this topic whatsoever. Don’t do this again please. I think Yorick would be entitled to an apology from you.

On another note, I find it quite disappointing that the anger and negative emotion from religious discussions that took place at GD have somehow been transferred to this forum, which is a GAMING forum. I thought we would have all learned by now that one of the most difficult things to do is change someone’s opinion online. I’ll repeat what I said on one of the many discussions that have gone sour over there – you DO NOT have the right to be offended if someone has an opinion contrary to your own, as long as they are not violating ToS or attacking you personally. You DO have the right to get offended if someone attacks you personally.

I don’t care what started it, but if it doesn’t stop soon this thread will be locked. (It will be the FIRST thread I’ve had to lock in the NWN forum, incidentally).

[ 07-07-2002, 10:43 PM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

I think Yorick has made some nice points, and it makes me a little sad seeing some people not letting him speak his opinions about this game.

this is a discussion board right?

hope I don't get cut down for this post, cause I don't often write something on the IW boards, I usually just read the posts.

Nobody’s cutting anyone down for posting their opinions here. All we’re requesting is that everyone keep a civil tone in such discussions – irrespective of what their opinions are, and respect that other people have a right to their opinions too. It’s when people get frustrated that they can’t convince the other person that they’re right, and that the other person’s wrong, that we start to have problems. I know we’re all astute enough to know when that line is crossed, however.

Thanks for your feedback – you’re always welcome to contribute as long as you adhere to that simple rule above. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I'm siding with Yorick now. Who wants to make a petition to fix the whole Gypsey thing? [img]smile.gif[/img] I'd sign it.