Look, I think I'm being taken way too seriously here. The intent was tongue-in-cheek, not foot-in-mouth I assure you. I think my record reflects little to no racism towards Muslims or the fine People of Yemen, our ally in fact. I came off much more abbrasive than was meant.

I meant the part about collateral damage - and stick by it. The rest, Mr. Mems and others, was over-the-top, and I think I have now apologized.

[ 11-05-2002, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Not a good enough excuse for me, I'm afraid. You're entitled to your opinion, but that one thoughtless, failure-to-engage-brain-before-typing comment (or maybe you DID engage your brain, since I notice you edited the post but didn't edit out that comment, so you can't have been that half-asleep) destroyed all the respect that you'd built up with me over the last month or so that you've contributed here.

Mate, you don't have to apologize to me - I'm just putting my opinion down (speaking as a fellow forum member, not a mod). [img]smile.gif[/img] Like I said, you're entitled to your 2c, but it's disappointing just the same. All I'm saying is that it will take time to rebuild all that - that's all. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 11-05-2002, 10:33 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

For instance, if they would know a terrorist was in a car with some people somewhere in the US, I doubt they would blow up the car or shoot them all, because they would be afraid that innocent people would be hurt. But when something like this happens in the Middle East, it's okay for them to blow up the whole car. And that's what I think is wrong... Middle Eastern 'innocents'' lives are just as valuable as American, Swedish, etc.

Ziroc, I find it hard to believe every single man in that car, or everyone labled "suspected terrorist" for that matter, killed 1000's of innocents. Even if they had, I'm the kind who likes to see evidence before the missile is launched.
I'm not saying you are wrong to be relieved there are one or more terrorists less to threaten your lives, or those of people you love, because you are not.

I could go on about my own opinion in this, but as you said, everyone has their own and we should respect that. So I do.

All I meant to say with my last post, was that I am surprised by some of the reactions. I may be playing too many computer games, but I thought I spotted a certain bloodlust there which I never expected. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say, as I don't know how to finish without sounding potentially offensive, and I've no desire to be.

I am, however, glad to see that some people just hadn't had their morning coffees yet.

(edited for spellig)

[ 11-05-2002, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: Legolas ]

Yes, yes, but let's not generalise. Not everyone knows everyone so well. Not all the time. And I still believe people are innocent untill proven guilty. Sorry, but I do. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

It wasn't coffee - though I like that logo. It was an early-morning attempt to stir the pot, and I used waayy too big a ladle, which is a word I likely spelled incorrectly as well.

Well, the predominant additude of superority hasn't gone away entirely, even in a country with emphasis on equality, example being that the self-proclaimed most equal society on earth aka US didn't let females or black people vote until the latter part of this century!

We are all supposed to be human, but paranoia is no excuse to say that some race is threatening to ourself.

<font color="#00ccff">Does not apply during declared war. </font>

<font color="#00ccff">You know, they didnt just go out and blow up a car, they have been watching these people for a long time, they chose a precise place and time to make the hit, it wasn't spur of the moment, don't you think that the idea of possibly killing innocents was a consideration in the timing? All I see here are people (not you specificly) Jumping to the conclusion that the USA just went out and willy nilly killed six random people. Why are you so ready to condemn and speculate against the US and not the terrorists? Why not call the victims suspected innocents?</font>

[ 11-05-2002, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]