Well, I had other friends. So I got through the depression, and remember: That which does not kill us makes us stronger. For making it through that bit of hardship in my life I am now better and stronger, get used to being able to bash your way through everything and you'll be at a serious disadvantage when you can't. Sometimes you just have to endure and bide your time.

Consider the virtues of letting them destroy themselves later on so that your hands are clean. Your quality of living can also be increased by hard work without bashing down those who seek to wreck things for you, they will be bashed down themselves. Just as you will reap what you sow, they will reap what they sow.

I stand by my earlier proclamation that a lot of you are too violent for the good of society, except for a few of the people in this thread.

Interesting idea. But who would rule? Power always corrupts. What you'd need was someone genetically engineered to be perfectly honest and completely without any wishes to take things for himself. Doing stuff only for the greater good.

Defending yourself is only if you are attacked physically. Mental assaults can be ignored and weathered, you'll be all the stronger for it.

yes but cleanisng the earth? how is that any more moral then killing people? which in essence you would have to do. lol; as a christian, I beleive, that there will be a NEW earth made... there problem sovled... lol. er, sorry didnt mean to preach. and I didnt want to bring up religion either...

I shall re-iterate what I said earlier. Neb is not wrong. you must NOT react the same way

Myself (and a nuumber of other people I know) traineed up and beat the CRAP out of the people picking on us

After school? we continued in that vein. It worked in school, why not outside of it?

I am still ashamed of that period in my life and am glad to be shot of it

Like wise if you get used to bending over and taking it in the hopes it will go away you will be at a serious disadvantage. Sometimes you have to be a throwafist instead of a pacifist ;)

Assholes and jerks rule the world while the meek wait in futility to inherit it.

I think alot of you are to passive and unrealistic in your hopes that someone else will take care of your problems except for a few of the people in this thread.

[ 06-23-2002, 06:57 AM: Message edited by: caleb ]

are you suggesting that people take the 'law into their own hands'? and go on a vigalanty run? a killing spree? maybe thats a bit extreme, but thats what it amoungts to, or what it could become. I agree that too much pacism is a bad thing, but then too much of anything is a bad thing.

Different people react in different ways; there is no one way to deal with people like this. For me, the violence solution (much as I am opposed to violence in general) worked. I was teased by three guys up until I was 13, until one day before gym class (this was usually when it was worst) I really got so sick of it that when the tallest one came sauntering over I just stood up, said 'oh, just f*** off' and stamped on his knee. I got into a minor fight with the three of them which was broken up by other people in about a minute or so. But after that, I never even had the slightest problem with them, and guess what? I'm now 18 and these guys have been my among my closest friends at school for the past two and a half years.

Many people tease others because they think they are incapable of standing up for themselves and are therefore easy targets. But by showing that you have guts and are willing to put up a fight, they respect you and realize that you're not as timid and frightened as they first thought. My advice is just give it a try. If the usual methods of avoidance, ignoring and calmly waiting for it to stop don't work, what have you to lose? Okay, you'll get a bruise or two. But what have you gained? Respect, confidence, a feeling of self-worth and acceptance.

I'm not saying that every situation should be dealt with like this, but it worked in my case and I can honestly see its benefits. That is why I think SomeGuy should wait it out for a while, try different, non-violent ways to go about stopping this bullying and if that doesn't help, I think a fight is the only way to go.

Just my thoughts [img]smile.gif[/img]

EDIT: For decency [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 06-23-2002, 07:10 AM: Message edited by: Arledrian ]

Well, no reason to be a throwafist if you can make do with being a pacifist. At least none that I can see, except if you get some sort of sick pleasure out of doing violently what can be solved peacefully.

But the nice guys have friends, loyal ones. Would you rather be a rich guy surrounded by illoyal sluts and people who liked you only for your money or an averagely wealthy guy with a large group of loyal friends that loved you?

Well, we all have different perceptions of the world. We could both be right, or neither of us could.

Well, look at how you got those friends, will they be the best friend of the next guy that kicks their ass? Probably, because he'll be stronger than you. Really, lovely friends. True friends like you for your personality, not because you can beat them up.

Unless they've got a knife or are just plain psychopaths in which case you might lose a limb or two. Or a life, yours. And if you need to kick the ass of others to gain respect, confidence, self-worth and acceptance then I say that I'd rather go without it.

The only time that a fight is the only way to go is in self-defence.