I hope my home state was good to you and treated you amicably. Kentuckians pride ourselves in a long military tradition of contributing crack shots to the causes of the USA -- hey, we're known for it. Even I, a namby-pamby liberal product of the state, know my way around a decent firearm (And can shoot decently -- but not like my deadeye uncle ;) ).
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Can't remember the last time I read a headline "16 slaughtered by man with a baseball bat"

or "23 murdered by unarmed martial arts expert"

It's true that many items can be used to kill, but guns do it more quickly and efficiently than other tools.

If the killer is a 5 year old is that what it's all about?

Gee, Donut, The Boston Strangler murdered more than 20 women. I wonder why he was called the "strangler" and not the "shooter". Jeffery Dahmer didn't use a firearm either.

A firearm is no more "quickly and efficiently" lethal than anyother weapon.

Rubbish! Try to kill someone with a punnet of loganberries and see how far you get.

i would like to point out that the percent of murders in mexico is no less than here, even though they have complete gun control...

...their criminals are good with knives. there will ALWAYS be criminals and murderers. take away the guns and they'll simply use more primitive weapons. thats why education is so important, treat the cause, not the symptom.

Are these similar to eldarberries? If so, *in faux french accent* I fart in your general direction! Now run away or I shall taunt you again! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

EDIT: BTW .... what's a punnet?

[ 04-30-2004, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: Night Stalker ]

Touche.
It's also about education. A 5 yr old should not have access to a weapon. That goes back to parenting (or lack there of). My daughter can clear, dissasemble, clean, assesemble, and perform a functions check on my two home defense guns. At the range she can, load, fire, and perform immediate action on the same two home defense guns. She's 12. However, she fully understands that she is not allowed to mess with them. To answer your liberal concern, yes they are locked, no she doesn't know where the keys are. Why, she's a kid! Kids are curious creatures. Are they loaded? Not in the house, during daylight. When are they loaded, only 1, at night and it goes into a 'finger sensor' lock box. Why, it's a home defense gun. Why, it's my RIGHT!!!!!!!

Goes back to 'psychopath' headline news will not report 1 killed by baseball bat murderer, be on lookout for guy with bat in your hood. But headlines will make it when 'Shoot-out' in the hood leaves 3 lying on ground. We must take away all guns, before it happens again. Guess what? It will happen again. Why, because law abiding citizens will be stipped of their rights, and the lawless will then have free rein to do as they please. Then what, are you going to cry at the government? Little tears rolling down your cheeks, Stop them!

Try listening to Eminem, more specfic, the album "The Eminem show", listen closely to the lyrics, you will hear real stuff, real pain. There's also a few guest tracks on their, but one will allow you to understand the thought. "Just gotta have my face in the paper" and all along he's talking about being a real hood criminal. Then and only then, can the 'Guns are evil' crowd understand why guns are their weapon of choice. Why? TO MAKE YOU JOHHNY GOOD SHOES WANT TO TAKE THEM AWAY. But they will only take away the law abiding citizens weapons, because as pointed out earlier, there's not enough police to go into the hood and take them.

Later at 5. Next headlines, operation disarm America, Soldiers and Marines will be in your hood over the next several days to strip you of all firearms. You can see how well this is working live on "CNN" daily! Is that what you want?


Besides, coming from a person who has a model 1837 cannon shooting a chicken for dinner, ought to know better!

Careful, Donut's touchy about that cannon. ;)

BTW, the quote from the Eminem Show actually is something said by another rapper (if I remember correctly, one of the D12 crew).

Of course, for the opposite view of the issue, you can listen to the song "Hollywood" on the same album. ;)

Thanks everyone who replied for your feedback. I'm probably having to do it in two weeks time for school.

Then how come knives are used far more often in crimes than guns?

You know that majority has only been mitigated since guns were illegalized in areas where the majority has been mitigated?

A knife is a far stealthier, and in some cases, faster weapon than a gun could ever be. Barring two firearms invented by a Russian gunsmith at Izhevsk, no weapon is nearly as quiet as a knife in dispatching someone. Or an icepick. Guess what, if I were to walk up behind you and put one hand on your forehead, and jam an icepick in the back, up to your cerebrum, you'd die quickly of a cerebral hemmorage, and guess what, you wouldn't make much noise when I did it. If I shot you in the back of the head, the gun alone would alert others to my dastardly deed. This isn't a problem if you're an ordinary citizen or a cop taking down a deadly assailant or such, as people knowing evil is afoot by your shooting is a good thing. Help can be gotten in the case of injuries or whatever, and the offender is injured or surprised, but with the new attention to the situation, they most certainly won't be sticking around, and if they aren't carrying a gun, your chances of walking away from the situation is pretty damn good. You stand a 24.7% chance of dying if you comply with a mugger/burglar's requests. You stand a 17.3% chance of dying if you fight back. That 7.4% is considerably valuable. Not to mention, if you do shoot, your chances are at about 3% that you'll hit the wrong person, cops have an average of 11 times that.

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