Since when I was a lord? Since I said SO! JK Well I said that cause I dunno makes me feel more offical, important and that kind of stuf. Just posted this post for no reason except to make this the 200th post here.

Well, the reason bandits can do it because unlike society, the bandits don't care what race is with them as long as they are successful and make a profit. Society on the other hand hold racist views of all races that aren't humanoid that regularly don't live in their cities. So of course it is easier to integrate those species into rogue bands which follow illegal trades, because you don't have to deal with the opinions of a whole nation.
And because those bandits integrate them into their parties, the kobolds and other races recieve bad names for doing illegal activity when the bandits do a major raid. </font>[/QUOTE]One question, let us put this into perspective. Has anyone read Xenocide by Orson Scott Card. It puts into view, how to classify creatures. One, Utlanning, a person that lives in a different place, e.g. someone that lives in Australia is an Utlanning to me. A Framling is someone that lives on a different planet (can not give any good examples). A ramen is something that we recognise as a human, e.g. an alien, something, we can communicate with. A Varelse is something we can not communicate with like an animal (no comments you know what I mean) and a Djur is something that is a raving beast that slaughters your people in the night. I suggest we catergorize the kobolds therefore.

Utlanning, Framling, ramen, Varelse, Djur..

Some of them sounds Swedish to me. Can any of the Swedish members confirm that?

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Insane

BTW: I agree with your classification [img]smile.gif[/img]

It seems our good friends Lord Brass, Mr Baggins and karapterism have dissapeared once more into the midsts of time.

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anyone know how big the largest thread in ironworks is and how many posts are in it.

Sorry but I do not know how to put in quotes...

Freinds all! Members of KAK! Let us storm this world, never resting until we find the murdering ditchpigs that are Kobolds*spits*! Let us raise their villages to the ground, bring the captives before MR. Scythe, and let us show him what they really are! I find it hard to belive that he has seen a kobold face to face in his life! Let us bring them to justice for murdering our freinds and family!
I have brought flamethrowers, enough for one each! Petrol bombs, three per person, and enough flamebreath potions to burn half a town!

Who is with me? All in favor say "aye! Kill All Kobolds!"
All against, defend your kobolds while you can...


of war: who is the leader of KAK?

... KAK doesn't stand for Kill All Kobolds it stands for Kin Against Kobolds.

Well I think that Lord Brass was the leader of KAK but i could be wrong.

Just don't kill the really evil kobolds in the bandit camps cause they are the smart ones who actually make a living and they have a chance cause they fight back with friends not just other kobolds but humans and hobgoblins as well.
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in fact they could can supply you with fire arrows to add to your collection of fire weapons

Thank you sir, I have that (somewhat dubious) honour.

Gentlepeoples of the Sword Coast. Allow me to apologise for my unseemly absence. I have been in attendance at <font color="white">Carilanthus' School of Witchery and Arcane Mutterings</font>, an unpleasantness which has just concluded. Hoo-bloody-ray! *Ahem* I shall be with you on a more regular basis from now on. You have been warned.

It's good to see some true debate back on the boards, particularly with regards to this topic. It has been long overdue. The subject of K.I. still rages on, and the Senate is once again plunged into that most perilous, most desperate of ordered anarchies: the democractic process.

Esteemed member Link is most likely correct when he states that this bill should have been ratified as is, amended or simply thrown out. However, it would seem to all (particularly the general populous of the Sword Coast) that there is insufficient structure to the chambers. This is a shame, for without clear and precise rules, precious little will ever be achieved.

If I may digress slightly from the topic at hand, it seems to me that we need some guidlines on conduct and due process. To that end, I would request feedback from those members who have some educational understanding of the Constitutional Political Ethic. The reason behind this strange request is to construct and ratify a session on the democratic process which must govern us all.

With this "Constitution", if you will, we may undertake a census of those people who have a political understanding and unfettered desire to see the people's will done by our hand, and provide them with the mechanism as the means to see that will achieved. I have paraphrased the expression "Constitution" from a similarly named document I have seen, and wish to use this as a foundation for our own great political mechanism. However, I have only just started viewing this work, so my understanding at the moment is a trifle limited. That is why I have called for your assistance, esteemed members of the Baldur's Gate Senate.

My idea is this, I will post a new thread, asking any member here with the requisite knowledge if they wish to participate in the <font color="white">Great Political Experiment</font>, or <font color="white">G.P.E.</font>, as it would be called in the research and development stages. Post your reply, pledging your assistance and, if response is good, we will begin to thrash out the particulars, and construct a methodology with a deadline for completion.

The thread will be called...Some Like It Not, because in politics you can't please everybody! I look forward to hearing from you there.

Your member in good standing (I hope),

LB

Eeeeeh, isn't it the same thing?

Eeeeeh, isn't it the same thing?

Okay fine close enough... I was just in the mood to argue at the time.

To answer the off-topic question, it depends on your definition.
If you are looking for the largest number of posts in a single thread, you are almost certainly looking for the "If you are a self-confessed spammer put your name here!" thread.
If you are looking for the largest number of posts in a series, you'd likely need to visit the roleplay forum to find what you seek.

[img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] I can't belive that thread was closed! It looked so cool.

KAK rules!

If kobolds are then Djur's, then that would mean they are not capable of sentient thought, and that all kobolds attack on site. If kobolds were deciding what humans were, I'd pretty sure they'd classify themselves as ramens, and us as Djurs because from their prespective, we attack them on site and they are defending themselves. And where is this Australia, and by planet, do you mean other planes? A more correct classification for Kobolds would probably be Varelse, as that they have sentient thought and are not raving and the fact that most don't speak common and most of us don't speak kobold.

And, I thought the purpose of this meeting was to decide what to do with the Kobolds, not classify them.

Does this mean this thread is closed? If so then I will leave and go live to the rest of my days in the Spine of the World encampment I have set up.

If not then I would still raise my flaming torch of justice and set up a organizaiton that will be dedicated in stopping Kobold injuustice! I shall lead and all will follow and I WILL RULE THE Wo-. I mean form an pact between all the kobold tribes if possible. In order to accomplish peace we must make the kobolds have peace with each other to fight a common foe. This foe has terriozed kobolds for centuries. This foe is INJUSTICE!! Those who agree with me say YEA if thou say YEA then I will make you a member of my organization.

Oh help, he's got an organization now! :D

Well not yet Dragonshadow I have prepared everything I just gotta come up with a fancy title.

Hows about: the nonexistantuntilIgetafancytitle club? :D
Got a weird ring to it.

That it does. I am looking for a name that when people hear or read it they would immideatly know what the organization stands for! It's goals for RACIAL JUSTICE! To bring PEACE IN FAE'RUN that has never been done ever before. A organization that would change not only Fae'run but other planes too! A name so great that all Kobolds would be proud to say it! An organization that would infulence millions in it's quest for INTEGRAITON!!!!!!!!

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Really short speech eh.

Just a question Scythe, In my adventures, when killing a few Kobolds, they exploded like a fireball, either I am confusing them with another race, these are a special breed made by some evil wizards, or its the whole race. Please clarrify that for me, because integration would be harder if when a kobold died, it blew up.

I don't believe that anyone here is willing to accept or deny K.I. solely on the nature of a kobold's death throws Lilarcor. It seems a trifle extreme, even for some of the more militant members of K.A.K.

Would you be willing to rest your entire family's, clan's or people's future on the idea that because you explode when you die, you cannot have a representative voice in the affairs of the Sword Coast?

Let reason be our guide in this question. If, and is say if a kobold explodes at his/her demise, should we see this as the clamorous sound of a people in dire need of our help, or should we regard this as another example of the dangers of the rampant escalation of unchecked K.I.?

I do belive they are Kamakazi Kobolds.

Some of their race is so fanatical at destroying us they sacrfice their own life in order to destroy at least one of us. I admit this is the extreme but they are reacting to centuries of mistreatment. This also must be considred extreme by Kobold standards too.

If only this were so, Sythe. I feel that this sort of behaviour, however extreme, is far more common than even the K.A.K. would like to admit. It is a shame that this race (in particular) seems hell-bent on "taking us with them". Despite the fact that we are still debating the relative merits of Kobold Integration.

The kobolds kill tyhemselves.
We are mearly helping them on their way. :D

Nay Dragonshadow thou art wrong. Thy bloodlust hath blinded thee. Thou must see as I hath posted before that SOMETH of the kobolds did that. Not all! All of Ko and he brethren are driven mad by the plauge of fear. That hath been in their minds for centuries. Adventurers like you and me had once driven the plauge deeper into their minds. Some of the great kobold minds were so poisonied that they art fanatical in killing ye and me. They focus all their hatred on us and wish to take their own life to ensure protection of their people. I call these kobold Martyrs not Kamakazies. I spoketh the truth about this many a time.

Originally posted by Sythe:
Nay Dragonshadow thou art wrong. Thy bloodlust hath blinded thee.We all know that.
Thou must see as I hath posted before that SOMETH of the kobolds did that. Not all!No, but they're going to soon. No time like the present...
All of Ko and he brethren are driven mad by the plauge of fear. That hath been in their minds for centuries. Adventurers like you and me You admit it! You must have kiled kobolds!
...had once driven the plauge deeper into their minds. Some of the great kobold minds were so poisonied that they art fanatical in killing ye and me. Kobolds never had great minds. Face it.
They focus all their hatred on us and wish to take their own life to ensure protection of their people. I call these kobold Martyrs not Kamakazies. I spoketh the truth about this many a time.
They are still kobolds.

[ 07-02-2003, 08:20 AM: Message edited by: Dragonshadow ]

If kobolds are then Djur's, then that would mean they are not capable of sentient thought, and that all kobolds attack on site. If kobolds were deciding what humans were, I'd pretty sure they'd classify themselves as ramens, and us as Djurs because from their prespective, we attack them on site and they are defending themselves. And where is this Australia, and by planet, do you mean other planes? A more correct classification for Kobolds would probably be Varelse, as that they have sentient thought and are not raving and the fact that most don't speak common and most of us don't speak kobold.

And, I thought the purpose of this meeting was to decide what to do with the Kobolds, not classify them. </font>[/QUOTE]Classification helps us decide whether or not they are able to be made adjusted to a society. The classification of Varelse proves that they should not be able to join a society such as Baldur's Gate. Therefore we can claim kobolds as free game.

Classification lets us decide waether or not to kill them :D

Dragonshadow how cruel and heartless can you be. You want to wipeout an entire race. Does your bloodlust go so far as to make an noble race extinct? I am suprised at you.

Dear Mr. Sythe, my friend, pray halt thy insulting to listen.
I do not wish to kill all kobolds, mearly those that cause mine firends trouble.

I am not creul and hartless.

Yrs, DS

Dear Mr. Sythe, my friend, pray halt thy insulting to listen.
I do not wish to kill all kobolds, mearly those that cause mine firends trouble.

I am not creul and hartless.

Yrs, DS </font>[/QUOTE]I beg for your forgivness Lady Dragonshadow. Sometimes I get so worked up that I release my rage onto other folk of the Sword Coast. But I understand how you feel. I once was an adventurer. My very first adventure I came in conflict with Kobolds. I can understand that you want to protect your companions as you would to a sibling. I came here into this debate because I wanted everyone to know that Kobolds are like us. "Not all alike". After I have left the encampment in Ko's care believing that he can responsibilty I went to scholars to learn about the misjudged race. I have learnt of the their god Kurtulmak.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/dd...tulmak_p80.jpg

Their god influcences them. He is the evil in all the hearts of Kobolds. But the Kobold God was too teased by us more common races. Thus he hates us and saying to the followers to kill us. But despite their god our kobold friends can be changed.

Again my deepest aplogizes to you Lady Dragonshadow.

Sincerely Sythe

Kobolds are good???? That one's sitting on a pile of skulls! How is that good?

My mistake Kobolds are not good. No race is good every race has it's own conflict. There is good and evil in each race. Anyway that is the Kobold God and he is sitting on a pile of gnome skulls. The kobold god has a grudge against these gnomes.

Rise up Gnomes at this outrage, yet another reason to detest kobolds, like drow who kill for fun their light elf relatives, kobolds kill another species that has helped improve our standard of living.

Who was it who said: "there is no such thing as gnomes, only halflings," Mr Sythe?

And kobolda aren't green.

[ 07-08-2003, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: Dragonshadow ]

Originally posted by Lady Dragonshadow
That is the kobold GOD! I dunno why he is green but i have this guess. Greater and stronger reptalian beings are greens and the weaker ones are another color.


uhhh [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] uhhhh. I did BUT I made an mistake. I meant to say halflings. Honest :D

uhhh [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] uhhhh. I did BUT I made an mistake. I meant to say halflings. Honest :D [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Yeeeeeees, Mr. Sythe. We all belive you. :D

uhhh [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] uhhhh. I did BUT I made an mistake. I meant to say halflings. Honest :D </font>[/QUOTE]Yeeeeeees, Mr. Sythe. We all belive you. :D [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Well one question, do we believe you both? And Kobolds are not reptilian, they are more like yapping little dogs cross bred with rats. Note: isn't this the comment I made that sent Mr Baggins off with this topic? And yesterday I was in Amn, trying to revenge myself on the cruel trick a Lord Frikraag did to me when I came across some kobolds and a Rakasha. I fired an arrow at one kobold and it blew up making the the others blow up and nearly killing the Rakasha. I nearly killed myself laughing.

Kobolds are reptalian can't you tell by the picture I just shown you all!? There is no hair on the kobold KING!

Or is that they are reptalian for the 3rd editon rules?

why are you guys so obssessed with kobolds?