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Thompson 04-30-2002 02:58 AM

Hello everyone! It's been a while since I visited the forum. I upgraded my computer a bit (I now have 256 mb ram and a 40 gig harddrive). The annoying part is that the game's still sluggish from time to time. I'll save you the trouble and put my specs here:

PIII 500mhz
WIN98
256 mb ram
40 gig harddrive (with a 2,5 gig swapfile)
Matrox Millenium g400 dualhead 32mb ram

The problem might be the 3d card. It's quite slow as far as the game performance goes..

WillowIX 05-20-2002 09:36 AM

OK, I´ve seen a lot of unanswered messages including the following:
Quote:


*The instruction at 0041783d referenced Memory at 079a9758 The memory could not be read from

*Game crashes when talking to NPC´s

*Game rashes when using/giving objects
All these are trademarks of running W&W on win2k. I do the same and my game´s now working like a charm, well almost that is but still better than it did when I was running win98!

*First download the compatibility update from Microsoft, that´s here: Microsoft. I don´t know if it helps with this game but it certainly helps with other ones.

*Then log in as Administrator, recomendation for win2k is to always install games/programs when logged in as administrator!! Create a shortcut, either in startmenu or on desktop for c:\....\wizardswarriors\deep6.exe.

*Then rightclick the shortcut, select the compatibility tab, check "run in compatibility mode", then select either win98 or win95. I don´t know which is the better...

*And of course extract the townavi files with virtualdub!!! Links are found earlier in this post!

*The game ought to work now and you´ll be able to talk, give, cast spells and open chests! BUT, the game can still freeze sometimes so SAVE often!!!

<marquee behavior=alternate>*NOTE! This post is for win2k only</marquee>

ps. Wyv, Saz etc, feel free to remove the marquee tag if disturbing! I´m sure there´s a better tag for getting attention, but I don´t know them, lol...

[ 07-04-2002, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

Wyvern 05-20-2002 10:32 AM

I like the tag, Willow!! :D Good move!!! :D

Testing Marquees myself:

<marquee behavior=alternate> http://www.armbcr.org/smiley/mummytumble.gif</marquee>

[ 05-20-2002, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: Wyvern ]

Buckthor 05-23-2002 05:59 PM

Hello:
I am locking up every time I try to get into Isbad`na all .My computer stats are posted,Buckthors computer stats.Question.Do I have to go to the toad village and serpents lair befor I go to Isbad`na?Could that be keeping me out?I was told maybe 64 megs of Ram might not be enough?

Wyvern 05-23-2002 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buckthor:
Hello:
I am locking up every time I try to get into Isbad`na all .My computer stats are posted,Buckthors computer stats.Question.Do I have to go to the toad village and serpents lair befor I go to Isbad`na?Could that be keeping me out?I was told maybe 64 megs of Ram might not be enough?

As I recall your computer configuration, you should not have had a problem with the town avi files installing correctly, but maybe you do. Check the last page of the BEST TIPS thread for the post on VIRTUALDUB and try doing that to see if that will solve the problem.

Not completing an area such as the Temple or Toad Village has nothing to do with it at all. I know I always visit Ishad N'ha before I even think about doing the Serpent Temple.

64 megs of RAM may be part of the problem. It never hurts to have more RAM. Try the virtualdub fix and see if that solves the problem.

Wyv

Wolfmoon 05-25-2002 08:53 PM

First off hello.

Now to the problem, ive just reinstalled W&W after an absence of a few weeks and now I find I can no longer select the magic shop, town hall and one of the town exits in the first town other buildings in the second and yet more in the third I have tried installing several times Both full and small installs, with and without the patch, but its the same no matter what.

My system is as follows

Win 2000 pro SP2 (all the updates)
AMD Thunderbird 1ghz CPU
Abit KT7A MB
1.5gb ram
Maxtor Diamond MAX 30gb drive
16X Samsung DvD drive 7200kbs cd 21000kbs dvd
GeForce 2MX 64mb
SoundBlaster 5.1 Live!
DX 8.1

Ive run the game before on win 2000 pro with no trouble can anyone help out?

Wyvern 05-25-2002 09:12 PM

Welcome to the board, wolfmoon!!

Okay since you have reinstalled your game, Go to the inn and collect your party. I think that may be your problem - they are not actually active yet but waiting in the inn to be selected.

See if that doesn't do the trick! IF NOT - Get back to us and we'll see what we can figure out!

Wyv

Wyvern 05-25-2002 09:14 PM

wolfmoon -

the other possiblity is that your town files have not opened correctly. Check the last page of the BEST TIPS thread and use the VIRTUALDUB fix. That should take care of your town problem!

Wyv

Wolfmoon 05-25-2002 09:21 PM

I already thought of the first one, ill give the second a go now, cheers for the quick response.

Wyvern 05-25-2002 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wolfmoon:
I already thought of the first one, ill give the second a go now, cheers for the quick response.
I was thinking that probably was too obvious but it has been the problem before. Then I was rereading your post (since it doesn't just display below when I'm replying because the thread is so BIG) and thought - no it's that virtualdub and W2K problem!
Hope that fixes it for you!!

Wyv

Wolfmoon 05-25-2002 09:44 PM

Damn those AVI files hehe, thanks it runs fine now, though I cant for the life of me figure out why it worked fine before but wanted to be a silly bugger now.

Gormash 06-05-2002 12:54 PM

That VirtualDub thingy worked like a drem. Solved my problem right away.

Thanks heaps!! ^_^

Dragonrat 06-08-2002 02:31 AM

Hope you can help!!

My system: Windows XP, Pentium III 450 Mhz, 60 GB HD, 320 MB RAM, Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT Kyro (62 MB), Direct X 8.1, Windows 98 compatibility selected, W&W patch installed.

First of all, couldn't even do a max install.. 90% of the way through I kept getting an error message saying something about a "wrong volume" for the drive.. (sorry, should have written it down!)

Got it to install with min install, but here are my problems:
In the towns, if I click on some areas, nothing happens.. in Ishad Na, can't click on one of the gates and a couple of the buildings.
Sound is often choppy.
Game just does not "feel" right! Seems to hang too long in certain areas, etc.

Now, here is the interesting thing... I just recently reinstalled this game since I got XP, and have only had these problems with this OS. I used to play it on Windows 98, and never ever had a single problem. I have tried setting the compatibility to Windows 98 and Windows 95, resetting res to 640x480, etc., but nothing helps.

Any ideas? Good to know Saz's help desk is still here!

Wyvern 06-08-2002 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dragonrat:
Hope you can help!!

My system: Windows XP, Pentium III 450 Mhz, 60 GB HD, 320 MB RAM, Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT Kyro (62 MB), Direct X 8.1, Windows 98 compatibility selected, W&W patch installed.

First of all, couldn't even do a max install.. 90% of the way through I kept getting an error message saying something about a "wrong volume" for the drive.. (sorry, should have written it down!)

Got it to install with min install, but here are my problems:
In the towns, if I click on some areas, nothing happens.. in Ishad Na, can't click on one of the gates and a couple of the buildings.
Sound is often choppy.
Game just does not "feel" right! Seems to hang too long in certain areas, etc.

Now, here is the interesting thing... I just recently reinstalled this game since I got XP, and have only had these problems with this OS. I used to play it on Windows 98, and never ever had a single problem. I have tried setting the compatibility to Windows 98 and Windows 95, resetting res to 640x480, etc., but nothing helps.

Any ideas? Good to know Saz's help desk is still here!

Okay - I'm not the techie here BUT I might be able to offer some help.

The town problem sounds like the old known problem of town files not opening correctly. Use the VIRTUALDUB solution listed on that last page of the BEST TIPS thread.

My husband beta-tests for MS and he says that there are known problems running a 98 emulation with XP. You are probably better off just running XP and working through the problems there. All XP problems are solved the same way that the Win2K problems are solved.

Your likely problem points can be the emulations in XP and your version of DirectX. Many folks have problems running DX8 but don't have the problem running DX7 (I know - we all hate to downgrade :( but if that helps...)

Are you running the game in software mode?

Hope some of that is helpful.

Wyv

Dragonrat 06-08-2002 02:19 PM

Thanks a lot, Wyv! The virtualdub fix solved my town problem, which was the worst by far.. the other stuff I can live with. (I guess I should have read the previous posts first!)
By the way, do you know what the difference is between a min and max install? I'm thinking I'm not getting all of the monster sound and dialog effects as before, but that may be because of my Windows XP too.
And slightly off the topic.. I have been having an AWFUL time getting many of my old games to work on windows XP. Some I can get to work with some fiddling, others (like my Might and Magic Millennium Edition) refuse to work at all. :{ But yet my son's old Diablo game still works perfect! Is there such a thing as a forum devoted to general OS compatibility problems?

Dragonrat

Arsales 07-29-2002 07:58 PM

Oh great I just got my com back yesterday and while I was playing the game froze and kept makeing a funny noise! Now whene I turn my com back on and it says "Non-System disk or disk error Pleas replace and press any key when ready" And i dont know what the heck it means! Can eneyone help me???

Packrat 07-29-2002 08:01 PM

Check to see if there is a cd in the player or a floppy in the drive. They might have forgot to change the boot order in your BIOS and it's trying to read them before your hard drive.

By the way... if your puters down...how did you post this????

[ 07-29-2002, 08:03 PM: Message edited by: Packrat ]

Arsales 07-29-2002 08:05 PM

YES!!!! Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!

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[ 07-30-2002, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: Wyvern ]

Packrat 07-29-2002 08:43 PM

You really should change that, or.....forever remove the game disc when you shut down.
Have you ever done anything with your BIOS? If not one of us, could walk you through it.

[ 07-29-2002, 08:47 PM: Message edited by: Packrat ]

Arsales 07-29-2002 09:11 PM

Sorry but im no com whizz. What is BIOS?

Bungleau 07-30-2002 08:53 AM

BIOS is short for Basic Input/Output System, and is the stuff that allows the base components of the computer to talk to each other. This is more than CPU to monitor and CD-ROM; it's memory, ports, CPU, cache, video memory, and more.

When your computer boots up, there's a brief display that lets you edit the BIOS settings. Usually, you hit F1 or a delete key to access it. That lets you change the boot order, among other things.

WARNING!!! If you mess around with the BIOS, you can turn your computer into a paperweight. Be very certain before you make any changes to it. You've been warned.

You can update your BIOS through a process called flashing the BIOS. I've never done it; I've never had issues severe enough where upgrading the BIOS was the answer. It's definitly not a move for the weak of heart, but done properly, it's very safe and stable. I just wouldn't practice on a machine I needed...

On some computers, you may not see the message for hitting F1 or Delete to update BIOS settings. This is a function of other software installed on the machine, and can vary from PC to PC. Even if you can't see it, though, the keys should work. Now, which key might it be....

tater 08-05-2002 08:57 PM

Okay, I've got one I haven't seen in this thread. I recently upgraded to Windows XP and changed to a Geforce 4 MX video card. Now the game is crashing whenever I try to carry an object. I've just been ignoring the problem up until now and not trying to carry stuff, but I can't finish the Shrine of Anephas without being able to carry the obelisks. Is there any way to fix this, or do I just need to go back to Win 98? I know it's not a memory or sound card problem, I wasn't having any problems carrying things before, and that stuff is still the same. Already updated my drivers for the video card. Didn't help.

Bungleau 08-06-2002 09:12 AM

First off, tater, welcome to the boards. May you make the salads in the Gael Serran into an agreeable main course before they make you one...

Second, have you hit all the usual suspects for WinXP? Specifically....

1. Virtualdub
2. Sufficient virtual memory
3. 95/98 Compatibility mode
4. DirectX

Check elsewhere in the help desk thread for details, and post back with results.

tater 08-19-2002 11:48 PM

Just noticed the forum was back up.

I'd used the virtualdub trick already to fix the town problem. Eventually, I got the game to let me carry objects while playing in 95 compatible mode. Sadly, the monsters and NPCs no longer speak. No one has told me they're going to kick my head in since I tweaked the mode. I kinda miss it.

Bungleau 08-29-2002 10:36 AM

bump ba da bump bump.... bump BUMP!

WillowIX 09-17-2002 11:26 AM

<font color=#bbffaa>Bump until the new thread is up [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

Wyvern 09-17-2002 11:32 AM

Thought the new thread WAS up, just not complete.


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