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Reacting violently - ok, maybe it feels good for a short time. But in the long term, as I am sure you are aware, every action has a reaction, and extreme reactions are the quick way to escalation of violence. The measures you speak of that have been taken by America and other countries in the Middle East, they didn't really work, did they? If they had done, then we would not be in the situation we are in today, with hatred and anger between races in the Middle East and the West, culminating in this latest tragedy where in fact no-one is the winner, nor will be, unless we can use it as the launching pad to a different way of thinking altogether, a more global way of thinking that sees all human beings as equal. I don't want to start raging about bin Laden or the US here. There is guilt on both sides, as I think we are pretty much all aware. What I'm saying is that the attacks you are suggesting will not get us anywhere in the long run, and is likely to make matters much worse, i.e. escalation into a full blown war situation between the West and the Middle East. Fortunately, there are cooler heads than yours appears to be amongst our international leaders, although I am far from being an admirer of most of them, I must say... ------------------ http://www.asnsoup.com/silvercheetahfinal.jpg Ascended Mistress of Illumination [This message has been edited by Silver Cheetah (edited 09-26-2001).] |
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I HATE the Japanese for no particuliar reason then them having evaded China I do not have this with the Germans invading the Netherlands The main difference betweens us two is that i know my hate is irrational and i don;t act towards it. If you want my opinion Because i lost no-one in that tragedy i don;t carry hate and thus i have a more objective point of view I can see where you are coming from but i also think you are being a bit irrational about it about the japan stuff I didn;t like the fact so many japanese had to die due to the atom bomb and which that there could have been a way to solve it non-violently whicg might have been possible was there given more time. ------------------ http://potgrond.netfirms.com/Eyes.jpg I'm Watching you... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/hero.gif |
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Why not? It gets the point across that everyone becomes discriminating when it hits close enough to home. What about the next attack? How will we prevent it? What can we do to send the message that those who attack us will get the same treatment? I can only imagine a more heated opinion from residents if Buckingham palace were levelled along with the royal family and a couple surrounding blocks. |
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Well, looks like the thread is burning out. Thanks everyone, for the interesting and informative conversation. Even though it got a little heated there for a while. Take care and God Bless. The clock reads 6:00PM and I'm going home! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
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In the case of the Taliban and bin Laden, the short term soft approach - given that of course something must be done, I am just not advocating that America should sit on its hands - would perhaps be to assist the Northern Alliance in its efforts to dislodge the Taliban and launch covert operations to find bin Laden. Or you could do what the Taliban have asked, and provide the evidence against bin Laden. They have said they will hand him over if they get evidence, (not sure to who - probably not America, I would imagine??) so why doesn't America provide that evidence? I am rather puzzled about this, I must say. Helping the Northern Alliance root out the Taliban would bring with it much less risk of provoking all out war in the Middle East, which could happen if the present situation escalates, as many would see America as ally, rather than helper. There are many in the Middle East that hate the Taliban, and if America went about it in the right way, you could win much support by getting shot of them. (I am all in favour of putting the Taliban on the biggest human rights trial ever. They treat their people like shit.) No matter what (terrified) Middle Eastern regimes actually say re solidarity and support and so on, their people think differently (witness the riots in Pakistan when Pakistan made it known they would be assisting the US) and it is from those people, their minds full of grievances both real and imagined, that new terrorists will spring up to replace the old. Helping out the Northern Alliance (which I am aware America is already doing) is a low key and sensible way of doing something about the problem, as opposed to full scale military engagement, which is not, to my mind. The only way you will stand a chance of eliminating this threat is to bomb the whole of the Middle East into dust and sand. Now, that's hardly an option, is it? ------------------ http://www.asnsoup.com/silvercheetahfinal.jpg Ascended Mistress of Illumination |
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