I'm sure that it was Dumbledore that died. Polyjuice potion stops working after a while... you have to keep drinking it, every hour I think. Remember, Harry and Ron had only one hour in book 2. And Dumbledore didn't drink anything (except from the poison). And if he did, he would turn back to whomever he was after he died (from lack of drinking the potion).

I'm quite sure that Dumbledore knew Snape would have to kill him. I mean, he knew of the curse... so he knew Snape wouldn't last more than a year if he made him a DADA teacher. And a teacher doesn't have to die after the year is over. So it seems to me like Dumbledore didn't really give Snape a choice. After Snape made the Vow, it was really a choice between Dumbledore dying, or Snape, Malfoy and his family too probably. And I think Dumbledore would rather pick himself to die than an "innocent" boy (Draco). And also if you think about what Dumbledore said to Harry, that no matter what, he has to save himself because he is more valuable than him, maybe it's the same with Snape. Maybe Snape was more valuable than Dumbledore. Right now, Voldemort thinks that Snape is loyal, and because of that is the best protection for Harry. If Harry faces Voldemort, Snape could be his last defence...

I'm still trying to figure out what the argument between Snape and Dumbledore could mean though (the one Hagrid tells about). Snape says that maybe he doesn't want to do it anymore (spy on Voldemort), but what could the other stuff mean (the things about looking into the houses...). Does anybody have any guesses? [img]smile.gif[/img]

As for why Snape would be good, why he would regret ever telling the prophecy. I know he hated James, but the only time we ever hear him mention Lily is in the pensieve when he calls her a mudblood - but he never calls her a mudblood or says anything bad about her to Harry. So I have a feeling there's something going on there. I have my suspicions because Slughorn keeps mentioning how good a potion-maker Lily was, that some of the things Harry does are just like Lily. And Lupin said that some of the Prince's spells were popular at that time, so maybe it was Lily that used Snape's book and then James found the spells... [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 07-30-2005, 05:07 AM: Message edited by: Spelca ]

oooh, maybe Snape was in LUUUVVVV with Lily? That would give a whole new reason on why Snape would hate James. Was that ever brought up in the previous books? I can't remember...

Hehehe. Nah, I don't think he was in luuuuuvvv. [img]tongue.gif[/img] I hope he wasn't at least. That'd be a bit lame. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Maybe I missed something but I am wondering about the HBP's potion book. Earlier on when Harry didn't know whose book it was he thought maybe James but then it turned out the book was too old to have been his. But Snape and James went to school together. It seems a bit inconsistent that the only reason that Harry decided the book couldn't be James's also applies to Snape?

That's a good point. In the book did it say "It was fifty years old" or "it looked fifty years old"?

I was thinking about that too. And I think there are some clues to that in the books.
In the pensieve Harry sees (presumably) Snape's father shouting at his mother while Snape (as a little boy) is crying... Also, when James and Sirius are bullying him in the memory, they point out his old clothes (underwear). So maybe the book was bought second-hand... His family was probably poor. Maybe his father left the family, and his mother was left all alone. Hence why he called himself the half-blood Prince - he wanted to deny his connection to his father (which is what Voldemort did). Harry points out these similarities between Voldemort and Snape too. [img]smile.gif[/img]

About RAB... I just noticed that in the Order of the Phoenix, while they're cleaning the headquarters, they find a locket that they can't open. Do you think that might be the locket Harry and Dumbledore were looking for?

[ 07-30-2005, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: Spelca ]

I wonder what would happen if you died while under the influence of a polyjuice potion? Would you regain your true form, or could you be "locked" into your assumed shape?

I'm not sure... But I'm quite certain that that wasn't a person taking the polyjuice potion to look like Dumbledore. If he was, he'd have to take it every hour, which he didn't... They were gone for several hours, and Harry would've noticed Dumbledore drinking all the time (and he'd know something was wrong - I think he learnt from Moody, as well as Crabbe and Goyle). [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Aelia Jusa: [qb] About RAB... I just noticed that in the Order of the Phoenix, while they're cleaning the headquarters, they find a locket that they can't open. Do you think that might be the locket Harry and Dumbledore were looking for?

If it is, Mundungus Fletcher has probably stolen and sold it.

Ah, I just thought about it a bit. Slytherin's locket has the Slytherin mark on it (a snake shaped as an S). I doubt they're that dumb that they'd miss it when they found the locket. Unless the mark was removed of course. [img]smile.gif[/img] So it's probably not that...

[ 07-31-2005, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: Spelca ]