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Pirengle 01-17-2005 02:07 AM

Jeez. I leave for a week and y'all are courting LIVE actors again. Tsk.

Animated > live action for two reasons: sound and image.

Image: People are taking the familiar portraits and trying to find actors who fit the picture. If a film wanted to stick as close to the source material as possible, animation is key. (Y'all are also going for Hollywood celebrities and it can be difficult to get celebrities to work together on the same picture.) I also think it's better to do spellcraft in animation rather than CGI, but that's personal preference.

Sound: Many people mentioned keeping David Warner as Irenicus. Irenicus is one buff ex-elf. David Warner is a once-robust old man. Rob Paulsen (Anomen's voice actor) looks nothing like Anomen. Also, the voice acting in the BG series is top-notch. Rob Paulsen is also the voice of Yakko Warner, Pinky from Pinky and the Brain, and many, many other things. Flip through the vocal credits on a cartoon or video game, and dollars to donuts, he's there. The vocals make the game--I think they can also make a movie.

Actors. Shame on you. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

LennonCook 01-17-2005 03:45 AM

<span style="color: lightblue">Bodhi: Rebecca Romjin-Stamos .

Link 01-17-2005 08:38 AM

That would be Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, Lennon ;) And I beg to differ on your opinion, I would say Rebecca Romijn-Stamos makes an excellent Ellesime.

Kestrel Daystar 01-17-2005 10:59 AM

Personally I would rather see animated than live-action film. I concur with Pirengle, the voice acting cannot be faulted, at all. At some points it’s what made the game (well, not the only thing but...).

If truth be told though, overall I would much prefer a series. A good, well made, well financed series with a good director who won’t muck up the essence of Baldur's Gate. Many many episodes would be dedicated to main quest of Irenicus and Imoen and then the odd episode or, every other episode would be dedicated to a sub-quest such as The Unseeing Eye, or The Slavers etc...

Using 'Friends' as an example, on the show they had many famous and not so famous actors on which could also be used on the series, famous and not so famous. The original music that is used in the game has to be on the film/animation/series though; I bloody love that music, especially Viconia's romance music and the main title (for SoA).

And finally, I would personally love the main character to be a Bard - A bit of fighting, a bit of magic, and a bit of thieving. Plus I just love Bards, heheh.


--Kestrel--

Balintherlas 01-17-2005 03:17 PM

Live action has a bigger audience

Kestrel Daystar 01-17-2005 03:28 PM

Yeah I suppose.

But wouldn't it be better to have a non-live action film that does the Story and the game justice that doesnt pull that bigger an audience, then having a live action film that pull a big audience but lets down the Story and makes it look very cheesy?


--Kestrel--

Cerek 01-17-2005 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Kestrel Daystar:
Yeah I suppose.

But wouldn't it be better to have a non-live action film that does the Story and the game justice that doesnt pull that bigger an audience, then having a live action film that pull a big audience but lets down the Story and makes it look very cheesy?


--Kestrel--
<font color=plum>Well, Peter Jackson finally proved that you can have the best of both worlds - the bigger audience AND not letting a story loved by millions down.

The AD&D movie didn't suck because the main character was a thief (in fact, I thought that was a rather nice twist), it sucked because the people who made it didn't know JACK SQUAT about the game (although they still managed to do well in certain parts - such as the thief stronghold).

But I also agree that Baldur's Gate would be better as a short series and it would cost a LOT of money to make that many full-length movies.

While it's fun to discuss which celebrities would be the best for which role, it isn't their ability to work together that keeps films from having too many in one film - it is the COST of HIRING "Big Name" actors and actresses for key roles.

Halle Berry is a definite for Viconia. She proved she could play a strong female character in the X-Men films. Catwoman wasn't her fault - it was the fault of the writers and producer.
Sean Connery would be the best for Keldorn. He has played aged-fighter/paladin types before.
Alan Rickman would be a better Edwin than Christopher Walken.
Drew Barrymore would work as Nalia (and her portrait was modeled after Barrymore.
Sarah Michelle Geller would make a good Imoen.
I agree with Callista Flockhart for Aerie.
Ben Affleck would work for Anomen.
Wesley Snipes would be good for Valygar, though he might actually be a bit "strong" for that character.
Danny De Vito would be the definite choice for Jan.
I would guess the guy that played Gimli would also work for Korgan.


I also like the idea of having a non-traditional PC (though fighters are usually the standard). A bard sounds like a GREAT idea. Though I disagree with the characterization given earlier of a thief PC. The PC could be the ones that stealthily scouts ahead of the group in the different dungeons and also saves the group from tripping the traps set by their enemy. They come to a locked door and the fighter wants to just bash it in, but the PC steps up, takes out his Thieves Tools and deftly opens the door without attracting the attention of any guards.

The enjoyment of these discussions comes from the fact that the possibilities are endless.</font>

Kestrel Daystar 01-17-2005 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Cerek:
<font color=plum>Well, Peter Jackson finally proved that you can have the best of both worlds - the bigger audience AND not letting a story loved by millions down.</font>
Yeah, I was going to put that too. But this is like one of a kind. And the actors, director, writers were all perfect, and huge dedicated fans of the books. You would need someone with that same passion making BGII in order for it to 'perfect'.

Quote:

Originally posted by Cerek:
<font color=plum>Sarah Michelle Geller would make a good Imoen. </font>
I still think Alyson Hannigan fits the role better. Looks the part, and can act very innocent, aswell as very tough. Plus she feels like your little sister.

Quote:

Originally posted by Cerek:
<font color=plum>I would guess the guy that played Gimli would also work for Korgan. </font>
Hmm, possibly. But I think having John Rhys-Davies play another dwarf wouldn't be that good. It would seem scratched somehow.

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Originally posted by Cerek:
<font color=plum>I also like the idea of having a non-traditional PC (though fighters are usually the standard). A bard sounds like a GREAT idea. </font>
Most definitely, heheh ;) Someone who sees sense, Heheh [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] ;)


--Kestrel--

Jerr Conner 01-17-2005 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Balintherlas:


How much thiefing did Costner do in Robin Hood? Was he always on guard looking for traps? Did he ever successfuly hide in the shawdows?

I could however see a cleric as the PC, everyone always loves a Holy Warrior, especially if the movie had some sort of religious crises, a loss of faith and then a miraculous redemption.

Well, in that movie he did steal a lot from nobles, and there were scenes of hiding. No trap detecting, though.

Jerr Conner 01-17-2005 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
Keep in mind that people HATED Abdel, the PC in the Baldur's Gate novels. Male fighters are boring. Now, a female fighter, dual-wielding daggers or short swords... That's a bit different. Not "Me fighter man. Me hurt you with my arms the size of lunchmeat."
The female fighter idea does sound interesting. Plus, not too many fantasy movies I can think of with a female fighter as the lead.


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