[img]smile.gif[/img] don't worry, i won't.

but some seriotypes are just plain funny, i always enjoy being asked about the polar bears walking on the streets in sweden :D

Oooooh.... Vasky is gonna love that one. :D </font>[/QUOTE]Not only him. :D

Actually for those who don't know Hungary was just occupied by soviet forces for just a bit more than 50 years. And they decided everything in the country's politics. So Hungary did not want communism, we just got unlucky that it was the russians who "liberated" us from the nazis. </font>[/QUOTE]That the Russians came by isn't all that strange, don't you think ? The Hungarian army was part of the forces involved in the Barbarossa campaign, they had a pact with the Nazi's, as did Romania and Finland. The Russians had a score to settle with those involved i guess.

Ahem....no drowning of the actual felines, please...but Kitten the ex Brother actress/participant....I'll just say I'm not following the show so use your best judgement Pastry o' the Mornin'. ;) :D


snork....had a typo...left the n out of drowning....would have been amusing if you HAD been threatening to 'drow' her... ROTFL ;)

[ 06-07-2004, 09:10 AM: Message edited by: Cloudbringer ]

The first thing we'd have to do is to get her to a solarium for a *ahem* permanent tan.. ;)

Hungarian politicians supported the german war at first because they wanted to get back the mostly hungarian populated areas which they had lost at the end of WW1. But then the germans wanted the hungarians to take part in more and more battles and they were much more powerful than Hungary so we couldn't say no.

However in 1944 Hungary tried to change sides in the war, but Germany with the help of hungarian nazis took over the country and controlled it until the russians came.

The russians actually got most of eastern and central Europe because british and american military commanders did not want to push up the Balcans (they were satisfied with Greece) and instead wanted to please the russians by letting them have everything until half of Germany. Had the allies listened to those who said that the communists would never stop their advance they might have pushed on in the balcans and the whole Cold War might not have happened.

To be fair, the Hungary before WWI wasn't all "hungarian" anyway. I mean population-wise. However, the one now is 1/3 of its pre-WWI size and that's left loads of hungarians outside. The lands given back to Hungary by hitler are actually what I think help make the "real" Hungary - i.e. all the areas that were at least then majority hungarian-populated - it included the mostly hungarian-populated areas of romania and slovakia and not the parts like croatian-populated areas that were once part of hungary but all the places have slavic names etc. Of course those parts were taken away again, stupidly, grrr.

*looks up at his map of Greater Hungary on the wall* , you got one dplax?

Anyway, yeah bjorn, you're lucky you corrected your post before I got here :D - part of the USSR, no thanks!

[ 06-07-2004, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Vaskez ]

No, but whenever I have the urge to look at the old Hungary I can just take out my history atlas.

You guys have ruined a perfectly good thread about lesbians and spankings with all this political talk. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] :D

I don't know whether to be more surprised at the historical/political discourse in a thread of this title, or that Donut actually seems to have watched the show! :eek: :D

Hahahah! Foolish notions....yes I am sure you know so much with your oh-so-wise head of twenty-something years. I'll take what I've been told by my grandmothers and others who've lived through 50 years of communism more seriously I think. </font>[/QUOTE]You of all people should be able to recognise sarcasm. I know there are serious concerns but didn't want to de-rail the thread. I wanted to keep it jokey and lighthearted. More fool me.