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Donut

11-03-2004 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Well, Donut, we took your advice. Let's hope this administration fails so horribly there is no doubt as to the idiocy of the preemptive action doctrine.

Let's hope for all these things, because it will be better for us all in the long run. A little suffering over the next 4 years -- so that we never make such a collosal screw-up again.

Let us hope. Let us pray.

You are an enigma TL!! I'm certainly not looking for the suffering that you have listed. That won't be good for any of us in the short or long term.

The $ is likely to weaken still more over the next four years so the rental on my US property will be decreased. Conversely the fact that there was a difinitive result will improve the value of my US stocks.

John D Harris

11-03-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by Donut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by John D Harris:
[qb] So what if the UK at this present time doesn't have a coalition, big woopty-doo. In no way does that mean in the future there will not be one. If there is not a clear majority would not there be a scramble to form a coalition? Do the laws of the UK forbid coalitions? Now I understand you seem to have a hard time following that reasoning,

We have a multi party system and the last time we had a coalition was during WWII. There would be no scramble, there would be an effort fo form a consensus Government. I really don't find it difficult to follow your reasoning at all. In fact I find your reasoning to be very simple.

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Originally posted by John D Harris:
I don't give a rats rear end if you vote or not, form what I can tell that is your call to make. [/Q]

And I don't give a tinker's cuss what you don't give a rat's rear end about. Although I'm suprised you find the need to tell me so. [/QUOTE]No more suprised then I am that you also felt that need. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

John D Harris

11-03-2004 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Well, Donut, we took your advice. Let's hope this administration fails so horribly there is no doubt as to the idiocy of the preemptive action doctrine.

Let's hope for an utter failure in Iraq. Let's hope the US defaults on its debt, and that China and Japan decide (like France and Germany) that it can no longer lend us money. Let's hope we run out of money to support the troops, and have to cut 1/2 our domestic programs just to pay to get them back home. Let's hope our children fail horribly, and a whole generation of dumber-than-dumb Americans result. Let's hope for 10%+ unemployment. Let's hope for more terrorist attacks, especially at the ports to highlight our failures to protect them. Let's hope for environmental disaster, killing many innocents. Let's hope for a 100,000 hectares of clear-cut "healthy forests" and dozens of extinct species. Let's hope we lose every ally in the war on terror. Let's hope a failed Iraq drives Halliburton bankrupt. Let's hope for rampant senior citizen death rates, to highlight the failures of our medical system.

Let's hope for all these things, because it will be better for us all in the long run. A little suffering over the next 4 years -- so that we never make such a collosal screw-up again.

Let us hope. Let us pray.

With any Luck T.L., I for one can't wait for the next Dark ages to roll across the Face of the earth.

Dirty Meg

11-03-2004 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by MagiK:
 The US has some hard work to do in the future and it would be in the best interest of all western civilizations to work with us andnot against us, our allies and our....well the people who used to depend on us to protect them, will eventually see I think that it is in all our best interest to put petty jealousies behind us and join to fight the current threat to our ways of life....unless you don't mind converting to Islam.

Personally, I feel my way of life is under threat from Blair and Blunkett. I'm certainly not worried about being converted to Islam at gun point. Evidently you are, but that is more indicative of your own distorted view on reality than any actual threat. The US and UK governments have used the imaginary threat of a global terrorist network to justify wasting our money* on killing thousands of people.

*Or, to be more accurate, your money. I'm unemployable.

Timber Loftis

11-03-2004 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by Donut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MagiK:

TL that is hardly being a gracious looser. So far it looks like the winners have better manners than the loosers.

Donut, being the best and listening to the advice from nations who have previously squandered super power status, doesn't seem like the wisest course of action....why would a nation seek guidance from nations who lost their former greatness to sink into mediocrity? Im not talking about one nation in particular...there have been several nations on that side of the Atlantic who once held everything in their grasp....Personally I think the US should ignore any advice on how to proceed from them and continue to try and chart new territory. If we fail let it be by our own hands and not because we listend to those who have come and gone before.

In which case why do you ask us to join in your imperialistic escapades. [/QUOTE]Oh, ho ho, you're too easy on the man. I'm surprised you didn't roundly trounce him for the whole sink from greatness to mediocrity thing. Perhaps the Britts are happy with mediocrity, no? [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

aleph_null1

11-03-2004 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by Dirty Meg:
The US and UK governments have used the imaginary threat of a global terrorist network to justify wasting our money on killing thousands of people.

Close: The US has used the real but small threat of a global terrorist network as an excuse to expand its power and political / military influence around the world. I think few here would disagree with this; the only argument is whether it is a good thing or not ;)

As far as the UK goes, I haven't the slightest idea why they're involved in this mess...

Dirty Meg

11-04-2004 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by aleph_null1:
As far as the UK goes, I haven't the slightest idea why they're involved in this mess...

Because Blair believes Britain's role in the world is to behave like the rat-faced little friend of a school bully.

Azred

11-04-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by Donut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Azred:
I would agree to giving Bush four more years because I believe America is the new Rome.

It's refreshing at last to hear someone finally admit that the US under the neocons is an imperialist country[/QUOTE]Well, I always call it like I see it. Besides, I never care about what others think of me, so I am free to say what others won't.

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Originally posted by Donut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Azred:
It isn't wrong to be the best, you know,.

:D :D You may believe you are the best, there are some of us in the world who differ.[/QUOTE]Variety is the spice of life. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] 

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