Allow me to narrate a metaphorical scenerio. Note that I am just using random names, so the relation may seem off.

<font color="#999999">Bill: The AK-47 is really great!

Ted: It sucks.

Bill: No really! It totally rocks!

Ted: Yeah? Can it hit a target two thousand meters away accurately?

Bill: I can always use the PS-1 Sniper Rifle.

Ted: I rest my case.</font>
Oooo! 9-14 damage in the off-hand! Scary! [img]tongue.gif[/img] I wasn't kidding when I said mediorce benefits to the off-hand. It may be more than the CF, but the CF stuns( and we all know stun = death) and has a chance to inflict an additional 20 Lightning Damage.

Although only a lunatic will put Celestial Fury in the off-hand anyway. ;)
Dang, I knew I forgot something.

Anyway, it can be ignored if you consider this. FoA + CF. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I was not referring to the old Equaliser either. ;) I fail to see how it can compare to the ToB weapons. Foebane + Purifier, Runehammer + Axe of Unyielding, etc... ...

<font color="#999999">Bill: No, Ted, you just don't get it!! :rolleyes:
The AK-47 CAN hit the target, the PS-1 is just a specific better alternative.</font> ;)

Then, add STR bonuses. And proficiency bonuses. And equipment bonuses.
Be amazed when the puny 9-14 off hand attack becomes a fearsome 20-25 strike. ;)

I'm not comparing it.
I actually think that it's better than Runehammer, but lets ignore that.
I'm just claiming that it's not as bad as most of us thought - it's even quite good, actually. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 11-22-2002, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: Alson ]

So why settle for less when there are other weapons capable of handling more situations?
You know why I only listed the base damage? Simply because every single other melee weapon also gets those bonuse you mentioned.

What tranforms the Equaliser into fearsome... makes the others outright brutal.
Yes, I acknowledge it is not useless. I mean I can use it to insult Jon Irenicus, but... wouldn't you want to use the best weapons?

The only valid reasons I can think of to use the Equaliser above all else, are the following,

1) Roleplay
2) The Cool Factor, because I think it has a very spiffy design

Hey! How come nobody voted to improve the Equaliser in the Items Upgrade Mod? Wow... they must really hate the weapon. ;)

Just kidding, but that reflects more or less what the powergamers think of it. ;)

Okay... the theme is neutrality.

I need help with the ingredients here, but as for the sword itself... Make it +5 enchanted with the following,

Immunity to Charm and Confusion when equipped

1d8 + 5 slashing damage, this is the base.

TN: +0 THACO, +0 Dmg
CN,LN: +2 THACO, +2 Dmg
NG,NE: +4 THACO, +4 Dmg
Others: +6 THACO, +6 Dmg

5% chance with each hit to dominate the target with a -2 penalty to save. TN targets are immuned to this effect.

[ 11-22-2002, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Just because there are other better weapons doesn't make the E a useless one.
For example, the Flail of Ages +5 trumps both Purifier and Foebane - it's better for fighting both Mages and Fighters, but still, i never heard no one calling Purifier and Foebane bad weapons.

Huh?
You gave Foebane as an example. Foebane +5 is 2D4+5 - which is 7-13 base damage - the Equalizer is better, here.

Nice. [img]smile.gif[/img]
How about you'll suggest it to Weimer?

just out of curiousity
What do you guys think is the best longsword in the game?
(i'm not a big fan of longswords but I actually have the equalizer on mazzy who uses the gesen bow most of the time)

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You forgot the Larloch's Minor Drain that adds an additional 1d4 dmg AND adds to your MaxHp which STACKS. I had Keldorn nearly having 300 Hps thanks to Foebane, and he was dualwielding it with the Purifier( main-hand, Foebane in OFF-hand).

Imagine if I did not dualwield... consider the HEALING and HP BOOST then. ;)

Oh... and it adds +6 vs undead, shapeshifters, and all extra-planar beings (demons, planetars, etc). The damage potential and abilities are superior to the Equaliser.
I still need ingredients, but my mind is drawing blanks.

[ 11-22-2002, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

SoA? Blackrazor +3.

ToB? Angurvadal +5.

This is overkill. But for my one fighter in the group, I keep:

Dragon Slayer equipped for walking around for the regenerating.
Daystar for fighting undead
Blade of Roses equipped for buying stuff (charisma)
Flail of Ages blunt objects or +3 THACO.
Adjatha the Drinker is the default for the charm and domination protection.

I should probably review the charisma tables and see if I even need the sword for a savings. But at this point I have more money than I can spend, so why sell magic.

Dundee, twice now I've seen you refer to the Defender of Easthaven as being +3. Odd, the weapon Joluv sold me is only +2. I'd say the DoE is more in need of an upgrade than the pitiful Equalizer or Wave.....

[ADD:] Good thing we're staying to the topic: BG Dragons! :D

[ 11-22-2002, 06:58 PM: Message edited by: SixOfSpades ]

The text... is misleading. ;) Thanks to Jim, who rummaged through the code, the DoE is actually found to be +3 enchanted and has a damage of 1d6 +4, not 1d6 +2. [img]smile.gif[/img]

ADD] I just double-checked with the Infinity Engine Item Maker and it is true. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 11-23-2002, 12:22 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]