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Sir Degrader 06-13-2005 04:41 PM

I'd much rather see a KOTOR movie then NJO crap.

Thoran 06-13-2005 06:39 PM

I guess I'd have to agree Sir Degrader... Lucas has created another inviting universe with KOTOR, with some cinematic possibilities that the SW era doesn't have. The Jedi and Sith at the height of their powers, with force powers bordering on magical. Hell a KOTOR movie would ALMOST be Fantasy as opposed to Sci-Fi. He's also got some interesting planets that have been settings for the two games... and some COOL bad guys.

My only hope would be that he doesn't write A SINGLE WORD of the script. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sir Degrader 06-13-2005 07:14 PM

...or touch the directing. Or go anywhere near the project.

Sir Goulum 06-13-2005 07:27 PM

Well.. he could have a hand in guiding it, but nothing in a major position.

Morgeruat 06-14-2005 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrowArchmage:
Did you know that they were thinking of making some New Republic movies? Except that they arnt going to be made by Lucas, theyre going to be made by Fox.That sucks monkey!
I've heard that Kevin Smith has been tapped to direct the Star Wars tv series. If so we can expect crappy action sequences, but a whole hell of a lot of respect paid to the star wars universe, and some great dialog/stories.

JrKASperov 06-14-2005 10:16 AM

And!

Mace Windu saying 'DIE mother******' :D

Edited for Swearing.

[ 06-14-2005, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: T-D-C ]

krunchyfrogg 06-14-2005 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgeruat:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DrowArchmage:
Did you know that they were thinking of making some New Republic movies? Except that they arnt going to be made by Lucas, theyre going to be made by Fox.That sucks monkey!

I've heard that Kevin Smith has been tapped to direct the Star Wars tv series. If so we can expect crappy action sequences, but a whole hell of a lot of respect paid to the star wars universe, and some great dialog/stories. </font>[/QUOTE]I think some directing and some decent actors will make for a better Star Wars movie than any of the Episodes I through III.

Sir Degrader 06-14-2005 09:06 PM

Hey, they really did a number on the OT, hell, KOTOR1-2 had better acting!

Bungleau 06-17-2005 05:02 PM

Just saw the movie Wednesday night while waiting for a red-eye flight. Gotta say... it felt like it was made just to plug the holes so that EpIV now made sense.

Things that struck me... no one knows about Anakin and Padme, yet they always seem to be together and very *affectionate*. No one can add 2 and 2 and get 4? Puh-lease... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Graphics/special effects.... very nice, but you can only do the "wow, that's big. No, THAT is big. NO, THAT is BIG" bit so many times. It felt like every so often, you had to have an outside scenery shot to show how big everything was.

And the combat scenes were impressive, but there was a whole lot of "lightsabers flashing all over" that detracted from the actual fight. I mean, I could see the lightsabers, but I couldn't see or follow the actors. Perhaps I'm getting old... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Of course, Obi-wan's lightsaber being picked up by the one clone he'd talk to later was kind of providential planning, I think [img]smile.gif[/img]

I also could have done without the scene with the younglings. It certainly showed that Anakin had gone over, but it felt gratuitous. That scene alone would prevent me from bringing a child to see this movie.

I haven't seen EpI or EpII, so I can't compare them. This one doesn't do justice to my distant memories of EpIV-VI.

However, it was a pleasant way to while away the time waiting for my flight to leave, so it was good for me.

Sir Goulum 06-17-2005 09:13 PM

Watch Ep. 1 and Ep. 2. It'll make it look sooooo much better. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Bungleau 06-18-2005 11:30 PM

Is that because they're that much worse, or because they lift Ep 3 up if you know what went before?

In any case, I'll put them on my list ;)

Lucern 06-19-2005 12:40 AM

Both Bungleau, Both [img]smile.gif[/img]

Kakero 06-19-2005 09:40 AM

Here's something that just pops up in my mind. Why the sith's lightsaber is always red in colour? How come Mace windu's one is Purple? Yoda's Green ? Obi Wan's ( and most jedi ) is Blue ?

Sir Goulum 06-19-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bungleau:
Is that because they're that much worse, or because they lift Ep 3 up if you know what went before?

In any case, I'll put them on my list ;)

Some things might make a little more sense, and the ramblings of Jar-Jar will skyrocket the goodness of Ep.3 just because he doesn't talk. ;)

Link 06-19-2005 04:07 PM

The lightsaber's colour comes from the focus crystal that's inside the handle. Each Jedi Padawan has to assemble his or her own lightsabre, which means that some construct a lightsaber with a large but less powerful beam, and others the other way around.

As for why the Sith lightsabers are always red, I wouldn't know. It's part of their image, I guess.

Morgeruat 06-20-2005 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
The lightsaber's colour comes from the focus crystal that's inside the handle. Each Jedi Padawan has to assemble his or her own lightsabre, which means that some construct a lightsaber with a large but less powerful beam, and others the other way around.

As for why the Sith lightsabers are always red, I wouldn't know. It's part of their image, I guess.

Actually Sith Lightsabers being red is right in there with the focus crystals, the Sith use a type of focus crystal that is much more powerful than those used by jedi, I would assume that only having 2 active Sith at any given time makes it easier to safeguard the locations of that source for crystals.

VulcanRider 06-20-2005 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgeruat:
Actually Sith Lightsabers being red is right in there with the focus crystals, the Sith use a type of focus crystal that is much more powerful than those used by jedi, I would assume that only having 2 active Sith at any given time makes it easier to safeguard the locations of that source for crystals.
So how do *you* know about them? Hmmmm?

Timber Loftis 06-20-2005 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bungleau:
I also could have done without the scene with the younglings. It certainly showed that Anakin had gone over, but it felt gratuitous.
Well, I think the Chancellor makes reference to becoming "strong enough in the Dark Side." In other words -- Ani needed a mega-dose of EEEVIL very quickly to catch up with the dark side energies he needed. Think of murdering children as the Phen-Fen Sith Crash Diet. ;)

Morgeruat 06-20-2005 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VulcanRider:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Morgeruat:
Actually Sith Lightsabers being red is right in there with the focus crystals, the Sith use a type of focus crystal that is much more powerful than those used by jedi, I would assume that only having 2 active Sith at any given time makes it easier to safeguard the locations of that source for crystals.

So how do *you* know about them? Hmmmm? </font>[/QUOTE]I read alot, and listen when others don't think I'm paying attention, being inconspicuous is the key to life.

Dron_Cah 06-20-2005 12:02 PM

Just curious, I've asked this question before, but how can one crystal be more powerful than another? After all, the energy would not be derived from the crystal, just focused through it, giving this blade of pure energy it's shape and color. Interesting, I thought, and never very well explained.

Anyways, another thing about colors, the Jedi usually make their blades in training at the academy. They are provided Adegan crystals, almost always blue or green. Mace's is violet because Samuel Jackson wanted it that way, lol! ;) [img]smile.gif[/img]

Timber Loftis 06-20-2005 12:26 PM

Well, your "fluff" (die kitty, die!***) regarding the academy and adegan crystals is possibly from the books or Jedi Academy games, but my "fluff" (die kitty!) comes from the KOTOR world, where the color crystal rarely has any power, only provides color, and the power crystals (such as adegan) usually don't change the color.

As for the color of lightsaber, my fluff (KittyKill!!!) from KOTOR states that the color given for the first light saber is based on the type of jedi one is -- blue for guardian, yellow for sentinel, green for consulars. Later, you can make other sabers with different crystals. Purple is for BadMoFo's.


*** "Every time someone uses the word 'fluff' instead of 'background,' a kitten dies." -- Gav Thorpe

[ 06-20-2005, 12:27 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Morgeruat 06-21-2005 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
As for the color of lightsaber, my fluff (KittyKill!!!) from KOTOR states that the color given for the first light saber is based on the type of jedi one is -- blue for guardian, yellow for sentinel, green for consulars. Later, you can make other sabers with different crystals. Purple is for BadMoFo's.
The problem there is that guardian, sentinal, consular, etc didn't exist until star wars d20 (the original d6 star wars published by west end games had Jedi) since d20 is teh Eville I ignore that it exists (much as I would like to do to Episodes 1 & 2).

[ 06-21-2005, 03:12 PM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

DrowArchmage 06-21-2005 01:20 PM

havnt any of you guys played KOTOR? it explains it pretty good. oh yeah i found the secret crystal cave too!

Link 06-21-2005 03:39 PM

Did you actually bother to read the post above yours?

Timber Loftis 06-22-2005 01:20 AM

Glad to hear the Consular/Guardian/Sentinel thing was worked into the SW RPG -- makes it much cooler. I like the specialization. I hope they made Jedi better -- under the old West End rules, they were slow to advance. Plus, under their rules, Luke Skywalker went Dark Side before they exited Jabba's palace in Ep VI, what with all the mind control going on. ;)

Under the RPG Rules, I LOVED... yes, LOVED, playing a Goth Tramp freighter smuggler captain. The movement rules and spaceship combat rules were the shizzznet.

Morgeruat 06-23-2005 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Under the RPG Rules, I LOVED... yes, LOVED, playing a Goth Tramp freighter smuggler captain. The movement rules and spaceship combat rules were the shizzznet.
Then I fear you wouldn't care for the new SW D20 then, the space combat rules are incredibly poor from what I hear.

krunchyfrogg 06-23-2005 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
Did you actually bother to read the post above yours?
This is so funny. You'd be surprised how often people don't even bother (at least it seems that way!).

DrowArchmage 07-05-2005 09:25 PM

[quote]Originally posted by krunchyfrogg:
Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
Did you actually bother to read the post above yours?
This is so funny. You'd be surprised how often people don't even bother (at least it seems that way!).
[/QUOT

I was backing up his statement.

krunchyfrogg 07-11-2005 02:26 AM

I'm not accusing you of anything other, DA, I'm just making a comment about what Link said.

Morgeruat 07-12-2005 08:21 PM

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[ 07-12-2005, 08:35 PM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

krunchyfrogg 07-13-2005 02:59 PM

LOL! Great post Morg!

Tancred2001 07-24-2005 05:47 PM

On the subject of red lightsabers:

The Republic were the first to invent Lightsabers for their Jedi, and used naturally-occurring crystals to focus the blade (adegan crystals). These were often blue or green.

When the Republic and the Sith Empire came face to face, the Sith still used swords - alchemically-strengthened swords, mind you, swords that could resist a lightsaber, but still swords.

Once they'd gotten their hands on a few dead Jedi and looked at these lightsabers, they wanted their own - but the Sith Empire didn't have any planets in it upon which these focus crystals occurred. So, they had to use Sith alchemical know-how to create their own, artificial ones. These artificial lightsabers had red blades.

Just as taking an adegan crystal and learning to use it to aid one's focus of the Force is an important part of a Jedi's education, so is learning the alchemy and the focus to create a red crystal important for a Sith.

DrowArchmage 07-25-2005 01:42 AM

wow how did you know that?


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