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MagiK 10-06-2002 05:06 PM

To all those who worry about the dastardly Americans polluting your moon. I suggest you put up a fleet and blockade the place before them damn yanks build a condo there....ooops, you can't ahh well, maybe we will let you hitch a ride on one of our ships :D

Ok its just a joke, It isnt as if the US is aboutto start dumping our rubbish on the moon and even if we did, we wouldnt be able to ship enough to put a dent in the surface area of the moon. You know even the mighty US space fleet has a hard time getting a few tons into orbit, let alone sending it to the moon. Besides the most reasonable dumping place is not the moon, but the sun, or mabe Jupiter...if we dump enough there we might be able to some day cause jupiter to go supercritical and warm up those cold moons for habitation ;)

[ 10-06-2002, 05:10 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

Ronn_Bman 10-06-2002 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uss:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
Uss, that isnt true and you know it. People are free to critize America all they want. Hell, all you have to do is look at just about any Eroupean post on a hot topic and you will find plenty of it.

Oh and Gabriel, that last part there screams with jealousy.

No, there isn`t! Show me one thread where people flame america.</font>[/QUOTE]uss, we can't show you one thread here where people flame America because flaming of anything isn't allow here.

As Iron Ranger tried to pointed out to you, people are free to critize America here at Escape. You will see posts filled with criticism of the US on the first page of General Discussions and throughout the history of this forum, but criticism and flaming are two entirely different things.

[ 10-06-2002, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

Bardan the Slayer 10-06-2002 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagiK:
It isnt as if the US is aboutto start dumping our rubbish on the moon and even if we did, we wouldnt be able to ship enough to put a dent in the surface area of the moon. You know even the mighty US space fleet has a hard time getting a few tons into orbit, let alone sending it to the moon. Besides the most reasonable dumping place is not the moon, but the sun, or mabe Jupiter...if we dump enough there we might be able to some day cause jupiter to go supercritical and warm up those cold moons for habitation ;)
Magik is right. There is a reason why every ounce of material on spaceflights is taken into consideration - it's because to attain escape velocity, every single ounce requires a completely unrealistic amount of fuel. If we wanted to use the moon as the Earth's waste bin, we would pretty quickly be bankrupt, due to the cost of producing rocket fuel for space missions.

From http://www.sunspot.noao.edu/sunspot/...k/shuttle.html

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The Apollo/Saturn V combination weighed about 6.1 million pounds (2.8 million kilograms) at liftoff, and only some 110 thousand pounds (50 thousand kilograms) of that (namely the Apollo spacecraft) actually reached the Moon, so the Saturn V needed about 55 pounds (kilograms) of fuel for each pound (kilogram) delivered to the Moon.
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And when you start to talk about sending tonnes of waste to the moon - it ain't gonna happen.

andrewas 10-06-2002 07:10 PM

True enough, but technology is better now. You can - if your willing to take your time - get to the edge of the atmosphere with a small payload for zero fuel cost (solar powered pathfinder aircraft), and the fuel and engines themselves are more efficient now. Im not saying that we could send tons of garbage to the moon, but tons of material and equipment might just be possible.

Bardan the Slayer 10-06-2002 09:01 PM

True, but then, people wouldn't argue about shipping useful materials there. It's just the snickers wrappers that cause problems. They get everywhere! ;)

Blind_Prophet 10-06-2002 10:32 PM

I don't see what the problem is if they did put stuff up there. it will just sit there forever. Its not like any of us are gonna go to the moon and trip on it or anything so if the company wants to waste there money and send stuff to the moon i say go for it. Plus the US is screwy anyway.

John D Harris 10-06-2002 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by True_Moose:
Of course, the problem with using it as a waste dump is that it has little to no gravity.

I can just see, 300 years later, some alien spacecraft being knocked out of the air by a Snickers wrapper, and declaring intergalactic war. ;) :D

Now that's the kind of Aliens I want to have a War with, we'll launch our SS(surface to Space) snickers wrapers :D

Ziroc 10-06-2002 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uss:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
Uss, that isnt true and you know it. People are free to critize America all they want. Hell, all you have to do is look at just about any Eroupean post on a hot topic and you will find plenty of it.

Oh and Gabriel, that last part there screams with jealousy.

No, there isn`t! Show me one thread where people flame america.</font>[/QUOTE]If you have a problem with the Forum or me, you can take it up with *ME*. I am getting real sick and tired of your attitude. And the reason I have deleted YOUR USA Bashing posts were due to your love for the Nazi's. So don't go around posting lies to other Members.

BIG Difference uss. Grow up.

(To everyone else:) I may not agree with some of the USA Bashing--and some I do, but I don't BAN people for taking bad about the USA if they back up their post with facts.

[ 10-06-2002, 11:31 PM: Message edited by: Ziroc ]

Ziroc 10-06-2002 11:40 PM

You account has been suspended for 1 Month for the VERY rude comments listed
below:

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As for you TheCrimsomBlade GET A CLUE!!! IF it because who got there first
hell you yanks wouldn't be allowed in space, it' be russian;). People like
you are why I visit this place less and less, pompous little git With your
Oh the US is so high and mighty, is it no wonder people what to blow the
■■■■ out of you?
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I did NOT ban you because you were 'bashing' the USA, actually, I agree with
what you said, but it's the WAY you said it. I am very disappointed in you.

Cussing & insulting other Members, and making FUN of what happened on 9|11?
As I said, I am very disappointed in you.


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