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Kaltia 08-25-2002 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Neb:
Well, personally I believe that it depends. In some cases like people having lost all of their limbs it'd be more merciful to just kill them. Selfish of us to keep them around if their life could never be improved.

If it's just a bad period, having lost a job, a g/f, had a divorce, stuff like that, we should prevent people from killing themselves. Things can still get better.

Hmm, when I have a bad period I just come here and piss people off (usually Dundee Slaytern on the BG forums [img]tongue.gif[/img] )
I have had a few friends commit suicide and since several had really wretched lives, I felt it was okay. It's a different sort of grief when you feel it's okay for someone who has committed suicide and, say, a friend run over by a car.
One of my friends overdosed on heroin. Her life had been completly screwed so I never blamed her, y'know?

John D Harris 08-25-2002 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Sir ReGiN:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Melusine:

So we should do all we can to prevent it, yet respect a person's wishes if there's really nothing left for them to care about in the world.

But why?
Cause things doesn't always pick up. And I'm not talking about teenage angst or temporary depresses, I'm talking about people who are tired of living, and has given it plenty of thought.
Why can't we see it as the solution to ending misery that it is?
Why do we do everything we can to keep them suffering?
</font>[/QUOTE]Because human life is worth something, If you really wish to "cash in your chips" there's not a damn thing anyone can do to stop it, but that is no excuse for not trying to stop it.

Aelia Jusa 08-25-2002 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Sir ReGiN:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Melusine:

So we should do all we can to prevent it, yet respect a person's wishes if there's really nothing left for them to care about in the world.

But why?
Cause things doesn't always pick up. And I'm not talking about teenage angst or temporary depresses, I'm talking about people who are tired of living, and has given it plenty of thought.
Why can't we see it as the solution to ending misery that it is?
Why do we do everything we can to keep them suffering?
</font>[/QUOTE]Well how do you know whether the person is just suffering from 'temporary depression' and if given conselling can come around, or this other sort where we shouldn't help them because death is the best option without talking to them and trying to help? A lot of people who have attempted or considered suicide but don't manage to actually do it end up being glad they didn't because from help and counselling or just their own epiphany they get a new perspective on life. Most of them probably thought it through carefully and at the time felt that they were tired of living and that continuing would be far worse than ending it. No one tries to commit suicide seriously (as opposed to just doing it for attention) if they don't feel that life isn't worth living or that death would be anything but a relief. But given proper support most people can go on to have productive happy lives and realise death wasn't the answer. Yet because they were really serious at the time we shouldn't try to help them?

whacky 08-25-2002 05:48 PM

Well i think people should be stopped from comitting suicides in emotional disorders as they might get overwhelmed by a certain emotion and lose control over themselves, so you cant really blame them for doing it, although it should be stopped and some sense of reality should be smacked into the individual !

The Hunter of Jahanna 08-25-2002 09:30 PM

Why do we bother to get upset over people who commit suicide? If you want to do it , then you put on your thinking cap , pick a method and go onward into urban legend. Who cares what the laws say or what "God" thinks. A fat lot of good society and "God" are doing you when it is just you and the shot gun.Besides if "God" if as forgiving as all the hucksters claim the he/she will understand.

Now, ATTEMPTED suicides realy just aggravate me. They are just pathetic. People who are like "look at how tormented my existence is, I want to die ! booo hooo hooo !" should all just grow up and get on with it.Youve got problems , SO WHAT!! Life is rough, bad things happen, people cheat,lie,die,leave,backstab,hurt,destroy, and degrade each other on a daily basis.Either grow a spine and deal with it or kill yourself for real and stop wasteing everyones time.


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