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Nachtrafe 03-19-2003 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Thoran:
On-subject - I question the validity of debka.com, there's a lot of "top secret" stuff being disclosed on that page that NO other sources are even mentioning as a possiblity (Like that Turkey has already opened it's airspace to overflights), not to mention that they aren't listing sources for ANYTHING other than saying "our sources report that...".
Hmmmm...I sort of got that feeling too. They seemed to quote a lot of mysterious 'sources', but provide no actual proofs. I've been looking at CNN, Fox, The NY Times, The London Times, and several other smaller news sites, and Debka seems to be the only one actually reporting *ACTIVE* military action, rather than just staging.

Nachtrafe 03-19-2003 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Rokenn:
Nachtrafe, Thoran, and Ronn.
You may want to review the previous page. Both Davros and I have let the issue drop...

Erm, Yeah, me too. See above. [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D

Cloudbringer 03-19-2003 10:52 AM

Read my last post of the previous page please.

I realize tempers and feelings are running high... but in liu of taking verbal shots at one another, I would appreciate it if the thread went back on topic or you took this to email and pm.

PS, thanks Rokenn... I appreciate your help and willingness to let it go.

We're here to talk and exchange views, not tear into one another for the audacity of thinking differently. It takes all kinds of people to make the world go 'round. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 03-19-2003, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: Cloudbringer ]

Masklinn 03-19-2003 10:53 AM

Why is the title of this thread all written in capslock ?

Ronn_Bman 03-19-2003 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Rokenn:
Nachtrafe, Thoran, and Ronn.
You may want to review the previous page. Both Davros and I have let the issue drop...

I saw Cloudy's post, but not until after my last one. :D

Ronn_Bman 03-19-2003 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Masklinn:
Why is the title of this thread all written in capslock ?
Don't you get started, too...lol. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] :D

Davros 03-19-2003 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
Davros, the post was let the slaughter commence and is anyone if there were any "bets" about how many civilians would survive. If that's not trivializing the issue in a rude way, I'm not sure what is.

<font color=yellow> Sorry for the Mmmmmm treatment ole pal, I agree it is useful sometimes [img]smile.gif[/img] . As for his comments (ie the slaughter guy), I don't percieve them to be trivialising anything so I will give you my perspective of his post. Rude - yes, pointed - yes, attention grabbing - most definitely ;) . I read them from the perspective that they are intended as a dig alomg the lines that Bush now has his war, let the slaughter commence. How does that trivialise anything - it casts the war into sharp relief against the backdrop of heavy casualties that must surely know occur. The issue for the poster appears to be deep concern at the human cost that is about to be paid. </font>

Might is right? How does that play into this? No one is saying he can't have an opinion.

<font color=yellow> It sure looked to me like there were quite a few people shouting down the tiny little anti-war protester. If enough posts unfairly (from the perspective of my answer to the paragraph above) howl down someone saying "you are a troll - see how we all agree - why don't you go away" is that not an application of this "might" philosophy? </font>

I can't answer the question he asked because I'm not sure what the "odds" being given on Iraqi deaths are, and I'm not sure what the minimum "bet" is. Maybe a Las Vegas or Montecarlo site might have the answer to the question he asked, but no one here does. :(

I have agreed a truce with Nachy to drop the subject and get back on topic, but as Ronn is a good friend I have taken the time to answer his questions.

Davros 03-19-2003 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Rokenn:
Nachtrafe, Thoran, and Ronn.
You may want to review the previous page. Both Davros and I have let the issue drop...

Damn - this post is moving much faster than I can type :D - I have explained my feelings to my good friend Ronn, but if anyone thinks my last post is inflaming things again just when we appear to have got a cap on it - well just let me know and I will go delete it.

Cheers all - time for a cup of hot Milo [img]smile.gif[/img]

Thoran 03-19-2003 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Rokenn:
Nachtrafe, Thoran, and Ronn.
You may want to review the previous page. Both Davros and I have let the issue drop...

Dropped as soon as I read the moderators comments (which was after my last post... fast growing thread!)

Masklinn 03-19-2003 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by Masklinn:
Why is the title of this thread all written in capslock ?
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Don't you get started, too...lol. :D
Ok I stop.
I m just being curious you know... ;)


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