Yes, I found this statement a little off as well http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/uhoh2.gif Unless he meant when he said "I don't believe that religion, in its true form, I mean Christianity, has brought any death" that, he didn't believe Christianity in its true form has brought any death, not that religion in its true form was Christianity?

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I read that too.

Perhaps this is put better.

I don't believe that Christianity in its true form has brought any death.

However this is in error as Christians have been persecuted and killed for their faith.

Perhaps this is the intent:
I don't believe that Christianity in its true form has brought any puruit of others deaths from its's adherants.



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Byronas, the definition of a Terrorist is:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

We had NO intention of killing innocent bystanders. We did not seek them out on purpose to kill them. We are going after the ones responsible. There is a difference.

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I suppose you are right Ziroc.


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Very well put Ronn. Everybody is right when it comes to his own beliefs. Equaly, everybody who don't believe like I do are wrong by my standing. Does that mean that they are really wrong, no, only that I perceive them as such.

Christinaty is not all encompasing. Many, just as equal, religions out their exist. And this comes from an atheist. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Ziroc,

I agree with you but don't forget that to them (innocent bystanders) they might think that we were targeting them. To them, that would make us terrorists.

After all, we do perceive Bin Ladden as a terrorist because he does target us. However, over there, some consider his action perfectly warranted and he's not a terrorist but rather a defender of Islam.

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[This message has been edited by Ryanamur (edited 10-22-2001).]

A defender who uses terrorist actions. The action define the label, not the motive. Defender of Islam is a motive, terrorism is an action. He can actually be both as they do not cancel each other out.

The original IRA was a 'liberator of Ireland', yet used guerilla and pseudo terrorist actions.



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A defender who uses terrorist actions. The action define the label, not the motive. Defender of Islam is a motive, terrorism is an action. He can actually be both as they do not cancel each other out.

The original IRA was a 'liberator of Ireland', yet used guerilla and pseudo terrorist actions.

America is not practicing terrorism on the Afgahnis but open war. There is a differnce which is why we have a different word. We do not say the Americans visited terrorism on the Hiroshimans. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

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[This message has been edited by Yorick (edited 10-22-2001).]

True, but that is why we are dropping letters and radio's down for them to understand what is going on. Heck, the North. Alliance didn't even know why the USA was there (Some of them). It's scary. It's not like they all have TV's with CNN or some news channel to watch and know what is happening. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif.



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