You don't even want to go there Donut!!!! During that time in the USA My father was an USAF ROTC instructor(1968-1970) Part of those peace love bortherhood of man crowd wanted to burn down our house kill my mom & dad. and on more then one occasion the local police kept a very tight watch on our house to make sure none of the "make love not war" pinko pimpply faced pukes stayed away. We lived in the country so the Hypocritical magot infested dope smoking wienny wacking sacks of horse manure didn't know exactly where we lived, lucking for them both of my parents are good ole country folk raised in Texas and can shoot. They tried once to strom the ROTC building, my dad and those under his command met them at the door and explained to them they may storm it but the first couple of dozen that tried wouldn't get to find out if the rest of them succeded. They decided they would march around carrying signs, maybe some of that money they parents spent for some learn'n worked that day. </font>[/QUOTE]They were kids for God's sake! What did they do to deserve to be murdered by their own countrymen? Throw a few stones? Chant a few slogans?

The point is the courts should decide. Just as they should in Iraq.

Donut I don't give a Rat's rear end if they were kids or not, they still sought to do my family and me harm. Now I've read where you wrote about walking in another shoes, I've just informed you of the "other's shoes" durring the protests of the late '60's and early 70's. Now will you walk in my shoe's or not? There are at least two sides to every story, in my nearly 43 years on this dust ball, I've met with several people that were present at Kent State and Proud they were part of the protests. UNTIL I told them of the otherside of the action they took, without execption They saw for the first time what the other side of their actions, and their pride in their past waned. Now that they've matured they realize there is a difference in protesting and rioting/seeking to do harm to others in the name of peace. With the mature mind of an adult they realized their actions made them NO differant then the very thing they were protesting. So No I don't approve of the riots on the college campi of the 60's and 70's, I do approve of peaceful protests, as my dad told them "I've killed badies so your longhair rear ends can be out here carring signs, you had better be carring signs". There is NOTHING wrong with peaceful protests, in fact the right to protest and petition the government is what our military is there to protect, but it is not there to protect riotting and lawless pimmply faced pinko pukes.

Donut, during my brief tenure in England, the college students I roomed with attended no less that 3 protests that became riotous. Admittedly, it was usually (to hear them tell it) the case where a peaceful demonstration got violent because the cops shield-walled the demonstrators into an impossibly small area. Nevertheless, there is no doubt that such a thing occurs much more over there than here. Which is why I saw bringing up Kent State as a pot-kettle-black issue. Without even needing to go into the footie idiocy riots issue.

I do take offense to the peaceful protestors (even if they threw stones) at Kent State being compared to RPG-toting assholes. Just my personal bias, of course.

[ 07-21-2004, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Hiero, there where two instances, 1 they wanted to burn the ROTC building, but a querk of fate the College was in the process of moving the ROTC buidling to a new location, so they didn't know where to look. They then decided to burn the house of the ROTC instructor, but the were batting 1.000 because dad had just been stationed there and the pukes couldn't find tour house, not for the lack of trying, but the Local police did and came by to inform us and keep an eye out on us, while my dad was TDY. The second time they wanted to storm the ROTC building Dad was there and He and His men (active duty & ROTC Students)put an end to it.

Now you maybe able to find all kinds of stuff on the web about the protests of the 60's & 70's, But I doubt anything you find will tell the whole story from both sides, that has been My experience from looking at websites on the subject. Before Kent State there was Lots of violence in the "Peace Protests" many police, National Guardmens, and ROTC instructors were attacked and injured, so don't try to give me this all they wanted to do was shout and call names stuff. My knowledge comes not from books and websites but from living durring that time, and taking to others that were there and dealt with the protesters. Pictures are well and good but they only show a small instance of time from one prespective.

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