"I don't wanna sound like Mel Gibson's dad here, but we can't find any evidence of that. None. Really, none. Floods we find, but enslaved jews in Egypt? Nowhere outside of the [*beep*] Bible."

really, what hebrew slaves were the ones who built the pyramids then? i mean, archeolgists all agree that there were hundreds of thousands, if not millions of slaves involved in building the egyption temples. again, if the bible is the only historical record, throwing it out doesnt make your hypothesis any more accurate, especially since the study of archeology seems to agree... although if penn and tellar are the magicians i'm thinking of, then maybe TV magic has taught them something all the scholars dont know yet.

That's a bit of a stretch - even the most negative reports don't get any further than 1 million deaths Saddam was responsible for, and that includes 500,000 Iraqis wo died in the war with Iran and those who died during the Gulf War.

the source fails, right off the bat, to include the nearly 800,000 kurds who were killed by the iraqis, nor the number of kuwaitis who died, nor the number of iranians who died because of saddam. it only accounts for iraqi lives lost... and even then it doesnt include all the factors over the 18 years that Saddam ruled iraq, such as those who's ears he had cut off, and then allowed them to starve to death because no one would sell them food.

I'm really, really tired of below-the-belt argumentations like the one quoted above... I suppose that's why religious topics were banned in current events

first off, i didnt say anything religious in what you responded to. i simply noted that the line of thought that a fetus isnt human resembles the nazi dehumanization of the jews. it wasnt under the belt, it was a good point and it rubbed you the wrong way because it struck too close to home and you dont know how to refute it without trying to red herring it as a "below the belt" attack. as i seem to do alot lately, i suggest you read the cool off message from the moderators and respond with logic, not simple complaint.

If there is confidence in one's position why stoop to making a cheap parting shot?

agreed, but defense mechanisms are GREAT arent they?

[I'm making an exception today since I am bored and GD is slow and I'm going to post in the snakepit that is Current Events... ]


You are not a human, until you are in my phonebook
-Bill Hicks


As for the original question, I hate to defend the Bush machine but I watched both ads and the Hitler footage in the second one is the first ad. I think their point was to show all "naysayers" and "pessimists"... ie those who don't support Bush. I don't think they were trying to compare them to Hitler though.

[ 06-26-2004, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: Jorath Calar ]