Can't you if you download from a site?

I believe so, but that statement was regarding the doing away with any tech that would allow copying. The tech that allows the burning of illegal copies of songs, is the same tech that allows you to burn legal copies of songs. The tech isn't the problem for the same reason a few bottles of beer don't cause drunken driven.

<font color=deepskyblue>I don't need to bait or attack anybody to validate my feelings on this issue, <font color=lavender>Cloudy</font>. I am perfectly comfortable with my viewpoint. Neither of my first two posts were directed towards <font color=yellow>Yorick</font> in any way. In fact, <font color=yellow>Yorick</font> had not even entered the thread at that point. Then, when he does enter the thread, he comes across with <font color=white>"Screw you, Cerek"</font> and later justifies it by claiming my entire post was a "F*** you, <font color=yellow>Yorick</font>". Sorry, if I had wanted to say that, I know how to do it.

You are right that I know how <font color=yellow>Yorick</font> reacts to threads like these. That is why I specifically did NOT direct any comments towards him. I merely expressed my opinion on the subject.

The only "button" I actively pushed was to highlight how over-the-top his reaction was and how very much out of line his opening comment to me was. And to point out that he has publicly asked for the Mods to ban other members for far less egregious attacks or comments (some of which were not even directed at him). So, yeah, I felt justified in calling him out on that point.

It seems the only way I can avoid pushing his buttons anymore is to just keep my opinion to myself and avoid threads on this topic so that he doesn't have that type of reaction again. Ironically, <font color=yellow>Yorick</font> would be the first to complain about how UN-fair it is that HIS opinion be silenced so as to avoid hurting the feelings of another member.

But since I am seeking to regain my lost title of <font color=red>Cerek the Calmth</font>, I will just bow out of this discussion now before tempers really do start to flare.

<font color=yellow>Yorick</font> - I understand how you feel on this subject and I'm sorry you were upset by my comments. But you also know how I feel on the subject, so my opinion shouldn't have come as any surprise. Still, I value our friendship, so I will leave the discussion to avoid any more disagreements between us.</font>

<font color=skyblue>I think Yorick gets more upset if you say that you download music than he does when you say that his religion is silly. Both are hurtful to him, but it is surprising to me to see which one injures him more.

Anyway, if Cloudbringer has been successful in bringing order to this thread, I would like to move on and add this news link. It is a step in the right direction, but if you read the last part carefully, you'll see how greedy the promoters of their idea really are.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movi...eut/index.html

Basically, the MPAA is offering $500 to a theatre employee if he/she turns in a person copying a movie with a camera. It is a good idea, but then they make the disclaimer that:</font>
<font color=skyblue>What are those other factors that are not listed in this disclaimer? It sounds to me like the MPAA want to tease people into helping them out and then having a condition that will protect them from having to pay out the prize money.

Going beyond this, why would they not offer me $500 for every person that I turned in that I know personally that has downloaded a movie from the net and is offering to make copies for his friends? Why not even $100 per person?

That will get them further than banning VCRs from homes or making me take out my CD burner, which by the way is used only for school projects like my Nutrition class assignment that would have taken 5 floppies last semester.</font>

[ 06-22-2004, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

Calling my faith silly doesn't prevent me from practicing my faith. Stealing music harms our ability to both create and listen to others recorded music.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA

that's like saying "all movies are valid", go to the books and movies forum and look at the thread about Sex Lives of the Potato Men, try and justify that movie as valid to me, and I might see your point </font>[/QUOTE]All art is valid if at least one person finds value in it - creator or appreciator. That is correct. Declaring otherwise is ignoring subjectivity, and applying your taste as being universal.
Though they contain objective elements, all art is subjectively appreciated. No getting around that.

Agreed. iTunes is too easy. [img]smile.gif[/img] Way to go.

Larry, to clarify, were people to enact laws that prevented me from practicing my faith, yes that would harm me more than laws preventing me from making music.

However, many times for me the two are linked. ;) I sing praise to my God. :D

Cerek, I'm sorry for reacting so aggressively. :( My apologies old friend. I'll try and agree to disagree. It is quite a hurtful view you have, but c'est la vie. You rock. Be safe.

Hugh

Allright You've done it NOW Ronn trashing Vinyl and 8tracks in the same post. Next you'll trash a '67 Camero SS with With "Smoke on the water" Blaring. It's a CHICK magnet I tell you a CHICK MAGNET...

...Ok a Geritol CHICK magnet. ;)

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