Absolutely no chance! Virtually everything about this war is now geared to getting Bush re-elected. It's being politicized. </font>[/QUOTE]<font color=deepskyblue>Absolutely no chance at all? [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] I didn't realize you were so knowledgeable on classified intel.

As much as I would LOVE to save this post for future reference, it usually takes 20-25 years for such info to become DE-classified...and I simply don't have your tenacity for saving posts by members to be used months down the road in an effort to embarass them.</font> </font>[/QUOTE]LOL Cerek you should try it - it's very satisfying albeit often too easy. I expect the "about time you all apologised thread to be re-run any time now.

I'm not one of the spy types on IW but I know how politicians work. This intel was leaked because they think it will make Bush look good. That's how I'm CERTAIN that there is no previous find. I'm happy to enlighten you at any time.

<font face="Verdana" size="3" color="#00FF00">So if they find The Pandora's box, or some other legendary artifact with WoMD potential under some sand will that be considered WoMD that were what they went to war for? I don't think that finding something that has probably been lost for 20 or 30 years in the sand in some forgotten war was the WoMD's that Bush was wanting to find or stressing over. The Republicans are being ridiculous to use that find has justification to kill peoples children.</font>

[ 05-19-2004, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

To stick up for the anti-war crowd on this point I'd have to say that if it ain't broke don't fix it. We're not arguing this point because of the peculiar degenerative mental conditions we all have (or at least I'm not ;) ) but because we actually think we're right. I know its hard to grasp that, what with us disagreeing with you and everything, but its true I'm afraid. This doesn't change our attitude to the war as it doesn't affect the original arguments we put up against the war.

Thats our excuse. Whats yours? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<font color=deepskyblue>Yes...I'm sure it is. [img]graemlins/dontknowaboutyou.gif[/img] </font>

<font color=deepskyblue>Don't hold your breath. I seriously doubt it will be from the source you're "anticipating" if it does occur.</font>

<font color=deepskyblue>LOL. I'll be waiting with baited breath. :rolleyes: </font>

And besides all that... it wasn't a weapon they found, it was ammunition. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

One can easily use this shell in a terroristic act. Artillery is only a tool of delivery. I believe that we will find relativly few shells in iraq. In syria though... :D

Many a critic said "none were found-> he destroyed them all". Well, the critics are wrong.

[ 05-19-2004, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Black Baron ]

I agree with Black Baron and JDH on that part johnny - the shell counts as a WOMD. It looks to be a verified find this time. In no way am I disputing that - I only dispute the size of the "mountain" [img]smile.gif[/img] .

My comment was in jest, relax. :D

I'm one of the people that believe there were, and probably still are much more of those things. He used them in the past, the whole world was a whitness, and i simply don't think of Saddam as someone who would voluntarily give up his arsenal just because the outside world wants him to. I just don't see any reason to start festivities now that they found a rotten firecracker, seems a bit childish to me.

I could easily use a butter knife in a terroristic act.
(NOTE TO GOVERNMENT: I am loyal American citizen. I would never do such a thing.)

I, personally, am shocked that this was found. I was under the impression that the Iraqi government was a well-oiled machine that kept meticulous records of everything it did a decade ago.

Yes you can use the knife in a terroristic act. You even will kill 1-2 people with it. The sarin gas will kill 100 people, at the very least.


Now about the well oiled machine. If you want to destroy every WoMD you can. You have numbers of how much did you produce and where. Piece of cake to someone that wants to do it.

Our problem is that USA looks for things and fights there. They lack the experience, they lack the knowledge, so their findings are too few and too seldom. Give them a few more years (or our instructors) than we will see results in monthes.