Imoen is not a good thief. She is at good finding traps and opening doors. she was good in the frist one but duel classing her ruined her. They need a pure thief in the game. you are best playing one your self. everything eles is covered. lots of picks for fighters and mages and cleric. The one thing that really burns me about this game is lack of a good thief

....and what about the lack of an evil Thief? ;)

Imoen is actually a decent Thief; if you shop around for the best gear, she will quite literally be all the Thief that you'll ever need. Okay, so her Set Traps score is capped at 25%, and she can't Detect Illusions at all--so what? You don't need Traps anyway (and Skull Trap & Delayed Blast Fireball can do pretty much the same thing), she's got spells like Oracle and True Sight, etc. Her Steath abilites aren't really reliable, but hey, there's always Invisibility. You want dependable Stealth anytime you need it? You want a Backstabber? Recruit Valygar.

Or maybe you were confusing Imoen with Nalia. [img]smile.gif[/img]

....and what about the lack of an evil Thief? ;)

Imoen is actually a decent Thief; if you shop around for the best gear, she will quite literally be all the Thief that you'll ever need. Okay, so her Set Traps score is capped at 25%, and she can't Detect Illusions at all--so what? You don't need Traps anyway (and Skull Trap & Delayed Blast Fireball can do pretty much the same thing), she's got spells like Oracle and True Sight, etc. Her Steath abilites aren't really reliable, but hey, there's always Invisibility. You want dependable Stealth anytime you need it? You want a Backstabber? Recruit Valygar.

Or maybe you were confusing Imoen with Nalia. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]urg...nalia is a worse thief..like a lot worse..sigh...you need significant potion stock to overcome her low thief scores...which makes sense, since her str is higher so she can carry around the extra potions...

i've taken sis thru several run thru-s...she literally is all the thief you ever need..just some potions when you want to pickpocket someone, and you're set.

Methinks that was the point being made. ;)

(Speaking of pet peeves, there are times I really wish the person who started the thread would post some sort of "thank you" so we wouldn't be handing out advice for two months. But, like everyone else's gripes, it just ain't gonna happen. [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

Hes' right. I suggest that you install TDD and you get very, very good assassin named Adario Kalvaras...

She is a decent thief. but if she was a pure thief she would be much better.
at 13th level with a gridle of hill gaint and cutthroat a backstab would do 1d6x5+11 damge enough to kill most mages with one hit. with a high MS and HS. u could sneak in and take out thier mage befor the battle even starts. put boots of speed on her and she could run out of battle and duck back into the shadows and come back around for another backstab. u can use spells and potions but they are not as good as the real thing. Also with viper armor on u can get your ac down to -6

Sorry to drag this out.

Hes' right. I suggest that you install TDD and you get very, very good assassin named Adario Kalvaras... </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah he was good . But every Assasain can be deadly if you get all the bonuses and right equipment .