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But don't tempt me! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif In case anyone didn't know the Mongols at that time were also known as the Tatars. Everyone was afraid of the Tatars when they arrived in Europe in the mid 1200's. They smashed up half the country b4 they were stopped. So well if the Magyars hadn't been there, then bye bye Austria, and then Germany etc. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif If u noticed the Turks also stopped at Hungary. They tried to take Vienna by siege at some point (this is 16-1700's) we're talkin now but failed. So they could again spread no further than Hungary because the Magyars were keeping them occupied too much. All in all, western Europe has Hungary to thank for much of its safety in the last millenium. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif But I digress.... Where were we? Languages? Cloudy, are u part/full Russian? |
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She has a place in Budapest and visits every summer. Small world, isn't it? Cloudy And I did learn about the Tatars in my studies! ------------------ http://publish.hometown.aol.com/tobb...s/bestow~1.jpg Raindancer of the Laughing Hyenas Clan Storm-Queen StormCloud of the Black Knight Heart Mind Soul Forever |
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There is this one place where u can go up the hill with a ski lift, (no skiing there though, the lift is for a laugh), and then u walk further up and there is a look-out tower. This is in the hills around Buda. When u go to the top of the tower and look out u will be amazed at the view. Ok it might not be the view from the empire state-building but it is different. On one side stretches the countryside and all the fields etc. and on the other, the city. It is pretty cool how u can view the city, walk around the balcony and view the countryside from a few hundred metres up. Damn, see I told u u'd have enough of me, I talk too much http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif |
Vaskez, I mentioned that all European languages stemmed from IndoEuropean with the understanding that Finno-Ugric languages are ASIAN in origin, and from memory, are related somewhat distantly to Turkic languages. The Finns and Magyars ARE considered related by linguists as both originated in central Asia. The Finns at one point in history had a huge territory stretching from modern Finland through to Central Asia, where the Magyars originated. In the Budapest museum there's a huge map dedicated to the "arrival" and settlement in "Greater Hungary".
I'm aware that the Slavs never conquered the Magyars, however, the Slavs never conquered the Rus (Swedish Vangarians) either. The Slavs have had a habit of either absorbing or influenceing their conquerors. I was merely pointing out that Swedish influence in the Finnish case, aside from affecting Finnish physical appearance, may well have affected the language. Austro-Ottoman-Slavic influence may well have altered the Magyar strain. Though the Tatars were indeed of Mongol stock (as indeed were the Huns) history generally distinguishes the two. Tamerlane's Samarkand was vastly different to Khublai's Kingdom. No need to give me a history lesson Vaskez http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif, I'm familiar with what you are referring to. I once taught a Magyar. Brock Tamasi was his name and a very good singer/songwriter he is at that. I still have some Forintz at home too. No-one will change them though. Maybe I should have kept that damn receipt from the Beureau-de-change..... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... http://www.animfactory.com/animation...ing_lg_clr.gif A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
Oh yeah, that was eight years ago BTW.
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I loved it. You know, the view from the Empire State Bldg is probably nice, but I love countrysides and villages more than cities for views...and for pure atmosphere. One reason why I traveled outside the Moscow city limits illegaly when I was there...that and I was young. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif The area where Boris Pasternak's dacha sits is beautiful! I've been there, by invitation of a relative of his. Truly moving experience, I have to say. Believe me, Hungary is on my list of places I'd love to see. Along with England, Scotland, Wales , Australia (NSW mainly, but I'm game for more!) and New Zealand, Beijing, Japan,Sweden, Spain (the areas influenced by the Moors mainly), Morroco, Tunisia and Egypt. Well, that's the mini-list... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif Cloudy ------------------ http://publish.hometown.aol.com/tobb...s/bestow~1.jpg Raindancer of the Laughing Hyenas Clan Storm-Queen StormCloud of the Black Knight Heart Mind Soul Forever |
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I picked up an 1849 copy of Longfellow with an embossed cloth cover in excellent condition (my opinion and not the actual collectors grade). On second thought, I did end up spending alot of money there. So if you have a weakness for books (esp. antiquarian) Hay-On-Wye may not be such a good idea. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif [This message has been edited by onthepequod (edited 05-13-2001).] |
Well, we Swedes are are the hurt of many but we also did something right in our time of whoopass..
It´s commonly known that webehaves very bad to Finland, made them learn and talk Swedish, but then again we had a a volunteer force that fought with them in the Winterwar and we have not that many ill jokes about them as we have about Norwy. Finland (congrats to the Hockey gold!) Are in many ways close to Sweden although we have had our differncies. Finland helped Sweden with alot of workers moving here after WW2, and there ae alot of Finnish people here still. (Thats why I always cheers for Finland in Hockeygames when Sweden doesn´t oplay http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ) All thoose Catholics out there might hate us but the Protestants may cheer us. We had a major part in the Religious wars tfought in this century. We havebeen in Turkey and Russia, both as cnquers, visitors and loosers. So we have borrowed alot of words and also food from around. As late we have calmed down alot though.. And Vasquez! Interesting stuff! Don´t stop now!!! ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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Hi Mel. Good post BTW. That's where the Indo part of IndoEuropean comes in I guess. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif Wolfgir, Swedes Rock! I love Swedes, surely every race has commited attrocities at some stage or another, either self focussed or externalised. Australians are no exeption (to our shame http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif ) ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... http://www.animfactory.com/animation...ing_lg_clr.gif A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
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It is no wonder that history separates the Huns and Mongols, for the Mongols went east and Huns came west, as did the Magyars http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif And I am not saying Finnish and Hungarin aren't related, I just know that they don't SOUND very similar. They share their distinct pronounciation of vowels that I know, but no 2 words are similar as u would find between say, english and german. Brock is not a Magyar name, although Tamási certainly is. I wonder if this friend of yours was born outside of Hungary? I am surprised no one will change your Forints for u. They are now and have been for years, internationally interchangeable. Try Thomas Cook or something http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif |
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Well the spanish surname is "Vázquez", but in some places, like south america, they say Vasquez and even Vasques. Thats cause in south america (and in the southern part of spain and in the canary islands) they pronounce the spanish "z" sound (its like the enlish "th" in "think") like a "s". In Andalucia (southern spain), some people also pronounce the "s" like the "z" (english th), but this one is not accepted by the spanish academy as the other phenomenon is, and usually its considered a lack of culture.
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Didn´t mean to do that, was just typing to fast and I´m terrible with names.. I was called Wolfgirl by one dude so I understand you fretting man! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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Brock was indeed born outside Hungary, in Australia. No, Thomas Cook won't do the deed. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif Oh well. I also have some Magyar currency from BEFORE the Forint. Found it in a collector shop over there. If they were fake, they didn't cost much anyway, so I picked some up. ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... http://www.animfactory.com/animation...ing_lg_clr.gif A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
WOLFGIRL, oops I mean WOLFGIR - no problem http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif hehe
Yorick , u wouldn't happen to have some Pengo 's or Korona 's would you? They are from before the Forint. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif |
Don't remember Vaskez, I'll check when I get home.
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hehe Well I talked to a friend of mine about the Getes we were talking about earlier. It seems like they after thir defeat retreaded to the Island of Gotland (gete=gute in Swedish). From there they seemed to have moved south and disapperead or just migrated into another civilsation.. Yorick! You´re so right about most people commiting alot of bad stuff and also (hopefully) some good stuff.. Romans are considered batsards by alot of people but they also gave the western civilisations alot of good things as an example, the stone-roads, aquaducts (probably misspelledhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif) alot of engineering and so on... Seems like most civilisations are like a growing childe, we have to explore and try things out before we mature.. ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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Well what have the Romans ever done for us? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif (you need to have seen Monty Python for this one) I remember at uni several American students being very anti British, an on several occasions telling us how evil are colonial past was. Ironically without which there would be no America http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif. However my general observation is that no country ever teaches in children about the mistakes of its country, e.g. Japanese children don't get taught about Japanese atrocities in WW2, British schools don't teach about the British war crimes against Boer civillians, and there are other examples I can think of for many countries. Can anybody out there dispute this observation? ------------------ http://website.lineone.net/~swhite10...ile/knight.gif http://website.lineone.net/~swhite101/sigfile/st.gif Holy Avenger of the OHF and part time Pinguindiebjäger |
Good morning Sir Tainly!
..and nobody expects the Spanish Inqusition! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif Well I have seen most Monty Python movies! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif And well you´re absolutely right! Only some reporters tell people of the countries misstakes and atrocities... and everybody goes "yeah, well thoose guys did this and that.." ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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Well I'm now thinking of all Swedish atrocities, to harass you with but I can't think of any http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ------------------ http://website.lineone.net/~swhite10...ile/knight.gif http://website.lineone.net/~swhite101/sigfile/st.gif Holy Avenger of the OHF and part time Pinguindiebjäger |
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Also we had alot of dubious affairs during world war 2, we were a divided country either they liked Hitlers little plans, and somebody disagreed so much they helped jewes to flee.. Well we have a history like most other countries, ask the Norweigians, Danes and Fins, they can tell you alot of our darker sides of history. How we forced the Fins to learn and speak Swedish instead of their own languish.. And how Fins and Swedes regardless have helped each other through history. Since Swedens neutrality though and the diminishing of the Kings importance we have stayed out of most wars. However we have had alot of volunteers and alot of people at the French foreign legion... ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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Well at least the Volvo cars are safe http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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Best things of two worlds!
The best thing is that we now at least have bought some new Tanks, but Sweden are currently on its way to rationalize all the army away.. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif I mean, stupiduty! Ok, it is not a funny post to place money in, butone day we can be utterly sad, if we are lucky and not annihilated, that we didn´t placed thoose money... Well no more poitics.. ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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Hehe, yep! It is still good, we have some of the dug down for close support and defense for military stations. By the way, have you tried Fallout Bros?? ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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you mean Fallout tactics or Fallout 1 and 2? Have FO2 and have played a demo of tactics ------------------ http://website.lineone.net/~swhite10...ile/knight.gif http://website.lineone.net/~swhite101/sigfile/st.gif Holy Avenger of the OHF and part time Pinguindiebjäger |
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I think so!
I´m a huge fan of Terror from the deep and have been looking for a good turnbased strategy game for small operations and this is as close to it you get! Sure realtime is cool, but you´re always into industrial warfare and can´t monitor everything that good, so it is really bigger and better! BROS is good because you have to prepair and use the terrain! I say buy it, if you liked the demo, buy it. You can also ask Memnoch, I think he bought it too! ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
yeah I found it hard on real time too. What are the vehicles you get in the game?
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Hehehehe Megalomania approaching,.... I like the Tank http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ------------------ http://website.lineone.net/~swhite10...ile/knight.gif http://website.lineone.net/~swhite101/sigfile/st.gif Holy Avenger of the OHF and part time Pinguindiebjäger |
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Isn´t that typical, in the future they use WW2 type tanks instead of the new ones eh? Sorry if we mess up the thread here!! ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/name.gif WOLF WINS EVERY FIGHT BUT ONE, AND IN THAT ONE, HE DIES |
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