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Try the win98 compatibility mode instead. W&W is build more for win98 than win95.

For the settings, it's more of a "try and see" approach. You'll have to tweak around until you are satisfy with the result.

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If anyone would have the problem with "jumping" mouse with Virtual PC emulation, do the following:
Edit->Settings->Mouse
Set the flag "use pointer integration" off.

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I still don't get the Town Avi advice, sorry if thats a bit of a pain to re-answer ><

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You have to decompress the avi files. Virtualdub will do this for you; you open the file in vdub and save it with an uncompressed format. The only gotcha is that you have to save it under a different name; you can't save it as itself.

So you have two options:

1. Copy all the townnnn.avi files to townnnn-old.avi.
2. Open each of those files under vdub
3. Save the file as townnnn.avi

or...

1. Open each of townnnn.avi files under vdub
2. Save the file as townnnn-new.avi
3. Rename the old townnnn.avi file to townnnn-old.avi
4. Rename the townnnn-new.avi files to townnnn.avi

If you've still got questions, post a new thread on it. ;)

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Thanks dude, at first i was like "huh?" but i get it now. Just had a little trouble with downloading vdub and such...

XP :(
 

I know this game isn't compatible with XP and all, but my brother got it working a while ago.

Amusingly whilst trying to find a solution google came up with a thread he posted which details the problem I'm having: http://www.atrip.net/forums/archive/...hp/t-4820.html

"Problem is, whenever I try to run it under Windows XP, I get a memory access error:


Application Error: D:\WIZARD~1\deep6.exe

The instruction at 00423dba referenced memory at 01fa1000 The memory could not be written. Press OK to terminate the application"


He later posted
"OK, I've found the error....

A missing Indeo codec - Not the newest one, so it was freeware... "

I went and asked him and he said he completely forgets what I need to do to get the game working, so...
Any suggestions?

Cheers,
HD :)

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I can leave the village for the lakes, but in the town I don't get the town leader when I leave the inn and I can only go into the inn, the armoury and the tavern, but not the other buildings! This means I cannot get the quest in the town hall, but only the rumour about the lake gypsies thieves and their stash. I also cannot play the intro movie, and if I click on the 'play intro' twice the game crashes and even using the Bink player cannot get it to play full screen, which I would like.

So far this has to be the hardest game to get working. In Virtual PC it seems too slow and has to run in software mode, and in XP it is just one suggested fix after another that doesn't work! :(

EDIT: So now I have reinstalled to try and fix the above probs, and guess what - without changing a thing, no sound! Thinking of giving up on this game. Fix one problem, another comes up. Though with no sound, another guess what?! I can quit without the game crashing! :(

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Got the game working, at least I got past the village gate, into the '3D world' - but still have problems! Didn't meet the snakeman but instead met a dozen trolls, I have the fight pointer (the sword) and am left clicking on the enemy and nothing is happening! If I click on 'Fight' it takes me to the characters inventory, I then click 'Done' but again, nothing happens! Whether I play realtime or slowtime I cannot get anything to happen. The trolls only attacked me when I backed away, but when I was right in front of them they did nothing! If I talk, they respond ('no talk') and the animations seem okay, but the fighting seems off!

Is there something I am missing? Or have I just found another problem I have to overcome with this damn game?!

By the way, I discovered via the Empire website (Empire is a budget label that released this game in the UK) that you need a dll file called dciman.dll in your Windows/System folder, which I didn't have. You can download it from here if you need it

http://www.nodevice.com/dll/DCIMAN_DLL/item4787.html

I have mucked around so much with this game to get it going, I cannot say for sure this dll got the game working, but it was the last thing I did before the game did work beyond the town gates!

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Try to switch your graphic acceleration between software or hardware mode and see whether you can target the enemies now.

The trolls who were standing in front of you aren't doing anything because they are waiting for you to do something (attack, cast spell, back off etc etc).

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Thanks for the advice, but the manual says something about a targeting cursor, and all I have is the fight cursor and when I click on an enemy it goes to the look (eye) cursor and then back to the fight cursor.

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If I choose software mode, the game crashes at the start and I have to recopy the gameopt file back in to get back into the game, as it sets the game to hardware mode.

Funny thing is after the reinstall, I did not uncompress the townavi files, did not install the 1.0 patch and just mucjked around with my XP to see if I could get it working rather than any more game changes. As I said above the only thing I found and did that has not been mentioned was the dciman.dll file copy to the Windows\system folder. So maybe this is what did the business. I am not going to uninstall and reinstall to check it as I don't trust W&W that much!

I had read some reviews and the manual and as far as I can see in combat all you have to do is click on the enemy, but even the manual doesn't say if you use turn-based how you 'end the turn', or in realtime, how you instigate battle with the enemy once you have chosen the weapons and spells for each of your team.

I also wonder if not seeing the snakeman means I have a problem there, although no one say specifically where you meet him on the path, so maybe you can get waylaid before you meet him? I don't know because I cannot find enough information!

If the dciman.dll gets your game working, maybe you can let me know!

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One of the settings in the game is "protected mode", where you can't accidentally attack friendlies unless you ctrl-attack them. If the trolls weren't hostile yet, then you wouldn't get a targeting cursor unless you either ctrl-clicked or otherwise made them hostile.

If you can, post a separate thread for these so we can make sure they get addressed. I know I don't always look for changes in Tech Tips, so you might end up waiting a long time for an answer... :(

*edit* And I forgot to add... thanks for that tip and discovery! I'll have to try it out to see if it makes things behave better for me...

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Bungleau - thanks for the response. I have tried the Ctrl attack but to no avail. If you just back away from a creature they will attack you, which is what I do, and I still do not attack anything despite clicking with the sword (fight) icon showing on cursor.

I have since found I cannot click on the gates to go back into the village either, so my clicks are not being registered.

I hope the dll thing helps you, and I will make a new thread, as nothing in this tech thread mentions what I am going through! :(

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You're welcome, uk_john. You might try decompressing the .avi files to see if it helps... one of the symptoms for them being messed up is being unable to click on things in the top half of the town (like the wizards guild in Valeia). Decompressing makes those accessible... perhaps it's the same thing in your case, although it hasn't been an issue in the wild before... :(

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Bungleau - thanks again, but I have to tell you I have done everything that this thread has mentioned and have uncompressed the townavi, but that only relates to in the village, and even there you can still click on 'some' buildings, so my clicks do work in the village and work more with the townavi uncompressed, so in every way I can do everything in the village, I can click on the town hall get the quests there, buy armour, the whole 10 yards. It's just when I leave the village and go into the '3D world' the mouse clicks don't seem to work and when I put the 'fight' cursor (the sword) over the enemy and click, I get no blue or red target, like I believe I should get, and my character/party do nothing when I click on them. I just cannot get my party to fight! I hit 'space to 'end turn' (manual's words, not mine!) on each character, but at no point can I get my party to fight! Also, when I go to the village gates and click on it, nothing happens. I choose 'use' and click, and still nothing!

Sword of Mastus go bye bye
 

I had the sword of Mastus for the longest time, and my barbarian was using it to fight. Well I travelled all over using this sword, and then POOF, it was gone. I think it got too damaged or something. the problem is that I cant complete the Mastus quest in the warrior guild now. Any ideas or help? this sucks. can i complete the game w/o solving the mastus quest? THANKS

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Yes, you can complete the game without solving that quest. That sword is only needed for the valeia fighter guild quest.

Since you are probably still early in the game, might as well reset your adventure so that you can redo the quests again. It won't take you long.

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You can also give yourself the Sword of Mastus, see these threads in this column:
http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/...ad.php?t=98367
http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/...ad.php?t=31591

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Cool...Im just going to proceed ahead. Im sorta far....I ended up exploring far west way before I solved the serpents temple....did the boogers...most of Shuragon Castle, cleared alot of the land areas....etc. When I finally went back to finish serpents temple to get the mask and stuff, I decided to go back to Valeria to finish up any stuff, and thats when I realized the sword was gone. I must have been fighting with my bare hands for a while! :)

so when a weapon breaks, its just deleted or do you drop it or what?

Thanks for the help. I may try that cheat too.

Scott

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Shadowstranger....wow...that stuff is way beyond my scope. I got that editer program and thought you could just add eqip into your inventory along with upping your stats. guess not. Those Hex things are beyond me. Thanks though. :)

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It really is simple, you don't even need to know anything about programming. I have frequently found it useful in other programs. If you tried it you would soon pick it up, just download Hexplorer.

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Hi there,

I have exactly the same problem. After installing the patch and applying the town-avi files I was able to run W&W under Vista (Business 32, Admin mode) step into the inn an create my party. But since I get out of the town, I do NOT get in again! - The cursor icon never changes to that one I would expect when moving the mouse over the town gate (from outside of the town: in the "real 3D world". Also, I cannot attack any monsters - again because of the mouse cursor not changing.

Can anyone help?

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As I found out, the problem must have been the 3D acceleration. In software mode, the mouse cursor works fine.

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Imore in software mode my game crashes at start, so do you mean turning of acceleration in OS, or in the game options?

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Hello

First time posting here.
I just bought W&W from the Explosiv-series. The game installs just fine. However... I can't get it to run. I doubleclik the shortcut, screen goes black, I get this coloured hourglass, and then I get a memory-issue. (See screenshot.) I already checked the Win95 compatibility.
I also read through this thread, but most issues deal with problems you get once the game is already running, so they aren't of any help yet.
My system is a PIV 1.8 Ghz, 1270 MB RAM, Gforce6200 256 MB RAM and WinXP SP2.

Can someone help me get this running? I would really like to play this game.

Thanks in advance!

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I currently run it with Win2k compatibility... Win95 didn't work quite right for me on XP any more. Give that a shot, and make sure you've set everything to the lowest level on the compatibility tab.

The usual suspects (other programs, virtual memory, defrag, etc.) do come into play, but one thing at a time.

Sometimes a different video driver version helps, too...

Keep plugging away!

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Doesn't change anything, but I didn't hear the error-sound this time. When I CAD-ed, the error was still there.
Could it be that video-codec problem? I assume that the game startup with a video of the manufacturer's/publisher's logo?
I tried some links for those codes in this thread, but they were all dead.

Thanks for the reply, though.

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I have got this game working, at reasonable speed and with mouse icon's appearing, etc, by using the Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 SP1. Now granted to use Virtual PC you need an OS disk, and I still had my Win98SE disk, so was able to install it into Virtual PC then install W&W onto the Virtual PC hard drive and away it went - albeit in 640x480.

Don't know how cheaply you can get a Win98SE OS disk, but I can see me needing this setup for other Win95/98 games...! Hope this helps!

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Thanks, UK_John! Would you mind spelling out the steps for those who might come after you and who might not be as technically savvy as you are?

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Well, to be honest, it's not that technical. Assuming you have a Win98 Operating system disk, you just download and install Virtual PC 2007 SP1 (just google it), you set ram and hard disk space (128mb I recommend and as big a space as you want, I had 3gb free so made a 1gb drive. Big enough for a few older games with their smaller size.

You then put the win98 CD in your drive and double click on the Virtual PC shortcut that's created A black box will open with some numbers, but don't worry. Just click on 'Actions' in the toolbar and click on 'Use Host CD-Rom (x:) (where 'x' is your CD-Rom letter), then click on File then Restart. Virtual PC will start again and this time you will see options that include Install Win98.

Initially Virtual PC will be set so you have to click inside the virtual screen to put your mouse inside the win98 screen. (to take the cursor out push Right Alt while you move the mouse 'outside' the screen). You can then click on the menu item, or click '1' or just hit Return. Windows 98 will install and stop at various points, just choose the obvious answers. After about three stops (one for the serial number to be entered) Win98 desktop will appear with a few icons. From there on in you need to know about Win98! Will just say right click options are similar, and I would go in and choose 1024x768.

Go to the menu bar (Right ALT and mouse move, remember!) and choose ACTION to make sure the CDROM is still 'attached' to the Virtual PC, put in your W&W CDand it should autoboot. If it doesn't, double click My Computer and choose 'Setup.exe'. Install will start and be just like on XP. Difference is it will take about 20 mins to install!

There is copious info on the web for using Win98, and it's not too different from XP/Vista. There is also lots of help and info within the Virtual PC. Feel free to experiment. And oh yes, on 'File' I think, there is an option to install additional's or something. Install it! One of the major things it does is allow drag and drop of files from your XP PC desktop to the Virtual PC desktop! So you can drag across a win98 compatible zip exe and run it, then drag and drop the various patches for W&W and run them within the Virtual PC after W&W is installed.

Hope this helps! :)

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Finding a WIN98SE standalone disk will be tricky. MS doesn't sell them anymore, so you are left with garage sale/flea market or use a buddy's. But you could probably buy a warez 98 disk from a shady online dealer.

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You could try ebay. And as long as you have a bona-fide disk of XP or Vista, I would have thought you are allowed to download a Win 98 disk from wherever you can find it.

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Windows is supposed to have a compatibility mode for 98, is this installing of a virtual W 98 system superior to the compatibility mode?

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Well, I never got it working in Win98 or any other compatibility mode. I got as far as just having the mouse icon problem, where it doesn't change, which I understand is a DirectX problem. Others of course have got their copy working in XP, and I tried a lot of their suggestions to no avail. So me going down the Virtual PC route was a last result - and I HAD a Win98 OS disk! So if you have to GET a Win98 OS disk, then it really IS the last resort to get it working, I would have thought! :)

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Yes, a VM is superior to compatibility. In a VM, you're actually running that OS - you're not running XP (or whatever) pretending to be 98.

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Just to let you know guys, I have also got the game running in software mode (it doesn't look too different than D3D to be honest!) in my XP using win95 compatibility and using a CPU speed controller (freeware) called SpeedSwitch XP. It is actually designed for laptops to save battery life by slowing CPU speed. I got it to work after turning on my Cool'n'Quiet option in my Bios (Award). What it does (on my PC) is take my dual core 2.8ghz down to two 1.0ghz, I then switch one off and therefore now have a 1.0ghz CPU. I used this program to get 'Outcast' running, and thought i'd try it with W&W. So if getting a win98 disk for Virtual PC is not possible, try downloading SpeedSwitch XP. I have an AMD CPU, so I downloaded 'AMDClock' which allows me to quickly see CPU speed. This is how I know SpeedSwitch XP takes my cpu's down from 2800 to 1000 on each core!

I hope you have cool'n'quiet (or similar) on your motherboard and that SpeedSwitch XP works on your PC (just double clcik desktop shortcut then right-click on taskbar icon and choose 'Maximum Battery'- it's that simple!) as it does mine, because you then maybe be able to get the game running in either D3D or software. I can only get it working in software with it, but you may do better, and it's a better answer than finding a Win98 OS disk! :)

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Can someone please post the games recommended system requirements. Also if anyone has got the game to work for more than say 25minutes, can you please post your: Op sys, GPU, mobo, CPU and Ram.

When i install the game it runs fine for about 25 minutes after that no matter if i load a save or start a new, the game crashes immediatly. So uninstall and install again for a new 25minute game.

I was thinking that i could build a box real cheap for this game if i could find the recommended specs for the game.

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Welcome to the boards, Peltz! May your journeys in the Gael Serran last much, much longer than a mere 25 minutes :)

If you want to build a cheap box for it, put on Win 98. Put in a gig of memory (Win98 won't handle more than that, methinks), and you should be fine.

Have you tried installing the patch? Or the other things listed in the Tech Tips thread?

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I got a new one (I think)

My specs: core2 quad, 8 gigs ram, geforce 8800 gtx, Win Vista64

Amazingly, W&W runs without a hitch in software mode.
But as soon as I switch to D3D (with or without the graphics patch), I get EXTREME flickering, choppiness and heavy graphical artefacts (most of the landscape becomes invisible, save for the occasional tree).

Interestingly, the character avatars on the upper left as well as the NPCs in the shops/guilds in town display fine.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?
Maybe a different driver version?
I don´t think I can "bust down" directx under vista...

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Sorry for such a delay in replying and also that I'm not the techie around here and will not have any reasonable advice.

I believe there have often been issues getting this game to run in modes other than software mode and that may end up being your best choice.

Hopefully someone with technical knowledge will come along and give you some better/useful advice.

Wyv