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Kestrel Daystar 01-19-2005 06:47 PM

Wha--? Oookkkaaaay


--Kestrel--

Illumina Drathiran'ar 01-19-2005 10:44 PM

Hm... I'm with the animation group.

HOWEVER!

If we ARE suggesting actors, which is fun, if hypothetical... I'm surprised nobody's suggested Anthony Hopkins for Irenicus.

solace in fire 01-20-2005 03:38 PM

anthony hopkins could do a perfect voice for irenicus, but unfortuneately he doesnt have nearly the physical stature to pull it off.


and who farted?

Jerr Conner 01-20-2005 09:47 PM

Hmm, how about an X-Men Evolution type animated series? Not with them as teens, just general animation style.

I would suggest Megas XLR, but that'll be laughed off.

timothy trotter 01-21-2005 02:47 AM

anthony hopkins seems to me to look too short and stumpy, i mean i havnt met irenicus to see waht his stature is or anything but he seems more like the tall lean old man thing to me. although he has got the voice to suit it...

Pirengle 01-21-2005 03:41 AM

Since Jim Cummings is already tapped out to do several voices (the various djinn, Minsc, etc.), I'd plug in Anthony Hopkins for Lord Jierdan Firkraag. I think he'd do a better job, and 'tis easier to swing a cameo. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Kestrel Daystar 01-21-2005 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jerr Conner:
Hmm, how about an X-Men Evolution type animated series? Not with them as teens, just general animation style.
The first time animation was mentioned on this threat I automatically thought of the animation on X-Men: Evolution. I really enjoyed the series and I thought that the animation was extremely good, esecially the background art. I liked the special effects aswell.


--Kestrel--

Jerr Conner 01-21-2005 08:38 AM

Quote:


Originally posted by Kestrel Daystar:
The first time animation was mentioned on this threat I automatically thought of the animation on X-Men: Evolution. I really enjoyed the series and I thought that the animation was extremely good, esecially the background art. I liked the special effects aswell.


--Kestrel--
Their animation was far better than most at the time. I hope they come out with new episodes soon.

Or start the series again, just a few years later. Never did like the "they're teens" angle.

Kestrel Daystar 01-21-2005 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jerr Conner:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />

Originally posted by Kestrel Daystar:
The first time animation was mentioned on this threat I automatically thought of the animation on X-Men: Evolution. I really enjoyed the series and I thought that the animation was extremely good, esecially the background art. I liked the special effects aswell.


--Kestrel--

Their animation was far better than most at the time. I hope they come out with new episodes soon.

Or start the series again, just a few years later. Never did like the "they're teens" angle.
</font>[/QUOTE]After the final episode where they fight Apocalypse, thats where they ended it. They arent coming out with any more after that now. Shame really, I quite enjoyed that series. I have taken up watching the new He-Man and the Masters of the Universe series now.

Anyway, back on subject; I would much rather see it in that animation style, im not too font of anime myself. Some of its alright I suppose.


--Kestrel--

Jimmy Joe Jamboree 01-21-2005 07:36 PM

Here is my list:-

Anomen - Tim Curry (just to make him totally rediculous)
Minsc - Vin Deisel (just looks right)
Edwin - Alan Rickman (the best "funny" bad guy actor around)
Keldorn - Sean Connery (for that distinguished look)
Korgan - Brian Blessed (Round, Noisy and Hairy)
Yoshimo - Toshiro Mifune (the best Japanese actor ever)
Cernd - Kevin Costner (the sort of pretentious character he'd play)
Valygar - Ice T (cool, quiet, a bit bad)
Jan - Robin Williams (for the silliness aspect)
Haer Dalis - Ralph Fiennes (sullen intellectual type)
Sarevok - Christopher Walken (think of his character in "Sleepy Hollow")
Khalid - Hugh Grant (stuttering, mumbling fool)
Ajantis - Rutger Hauer (always appears in these sort of movies)
Coran - Willem Defoe (looks almost as zany as Coran's portrait)
Kivan - Clint Eastwood (sixties spaghetti westerns. Mysterious silent type)
Xzar - Jim Carrey ('cos he's a loony!)
Montaron - Joe Pesci (psychopath)
Eldoth - Matt Damon (you can't have one without the other so...)
Xan - Ben Affleck (see Matt Damon)
Tiax - Danny De'vito (might just be able to do the "mad" part convincingly)
Yeslick - Ron Jeremy (!)
Kagain - Tom Cruise (He' the correct height)
Garrick - Eric Idle (for the Sir Robin references)
Quayle - Mickey Rooney (short, old, (probably dead in fact))
Imoen - Christina Ricci (very little sister"ish")
Jaheira - Goldie Hawn (for the "Mumsie" aspect)
Aerie - Sarah Michelle Gellar (just as irritating as Aerie)
Nalia - Helen Baxendale (stuffy upper-class)
Viconia - Natasha Henstridge (painted blue, not a bad look-alike)
Mazzy - Kelly Osbourne (Short, funny hair)
Branwen - Kate Winslet (Err, Blonde?)
Dynaheir - Byonce Knowles (kick-ass attitude)
Shar teel - Brigitte Neilsen (err, she's big?)
Safana - Jennifer Lopez (curves and sultry looks)
Skie - Winona Ryder ('cos she's a Kleptomaniac)
Alora - Mena Suvari (short, bubbly)
Faldorn - Angelica Huston (creepy dark haired woman)
And of course:
Irenicus - David Warner (who else?)

Personally, while it is fun to name actors, I would love to see the film in CGI. After playing Warcraft 3, I fell in love with the cinematics and would love to see Baldurs Gate done in that for a movie, so bloody awesome!!


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Illumina Drathiran'ar 01-22-2005 12:08 AM

You raise an interesting question. We'd need to figure out what party the PC uses...

Kestrel Daystar 01-22-2005 11:32 AM

Well, personally I would choose:

PC - Male, Bard ;)
Jaheira - Romance aspect, I dont really see the PC romance either of the other two.
Minsc - You gotta have Minsc and Boo!
Edwin - Comedy, banter with Minsc
Korgan - You need a dwarf, plus has good banter with Edwin
Yoshimo - Need a thief the twist in the storyline and you need a theif to replace with Imoen and you couldn't really kill off any of the other theives in order to replace them with her.

Thats just what I would choose. A mixture of good and evil, aswell as strength and alittle comedy.


--Kestrel--

Kestrel Daystar 01-22-2005 06:23 PM

Hmmm, I have just been babysitting for my next door neighbours kids and when I got there they were all watching a film called: 'Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas'. They had just put it on so I managed to watch it all and I rather enjoyed it (Hey, im 16, im still a kid ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img] ). I thought that the animation was quite good also, aswell as the fight sequences. While they may appear the kind of graphics for kids they do look rather nice and with a bit more sharpening up and alittle more attention to detail it would look great.

Has anyone else seen this film?


--Kestrel--

Kestrel Daystar 01-22-2005 10:42 PM

Just been scrawling through the internet and came across this picture. Now, is this not Imoen?

http://img175.exs.cx/img175/5369/imoen6wb.jpg

Alyson Hannigan is so Imoen its untrue, heheh


--Kestrel--

[ 01-23-2005, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: Kestrel Daystar ]

Balintherlas 01-22-2005 11:56 PM

With Brad Pitt as the voice for Sinbad?
uhh, what picture?

Kestrel Daystar 01-22-2005 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Balintherlas:
With Brad Pitt as the voice for Sinbad?
Yeah, that be the one. Even though I hate Brad Pitt and think he is the most wooden actor ever, I still enjoyed the movie.


--Kestrel--

Balintherlas 01-23-2005 01:46 AM

Haha, i was just watchin Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and was wonderin if theyd hav a part to play in this movie?

Nerull 01-23-2005 09:27 AM

(You may disagree with me on this, but since you are asking my opinion...)

Note--If we are aiming at an American audience:

If you really watch movies where they pull off "non-warrior" protagonists, they are almost always solo. Technically, Indiana Jones is a "thief/scoundrel" character, and though he has someone tagging along in each of the movies, it is him and him alone that pretty much pulls everything off. And backstabbing, etc. also works best with a solo protagonist. Thus, in a "group" movie, the audience would less go for a thief PC as opposed to a warrior PC.

And while magic can play a role, it is not too often that the average audience responds well to a wizard protagonist (they usually fare better as villians, advisors, or side characters). Harry Potter is an exception, but then the entire premise of the series is wizard training.

Thus, a warrior type protagonist works better. However, it does NOT have to be a "big beefy" character ala Arnold. You can have a finesse fighter; in fact, audiences tend to respond well to guys who can fight, but also do so with skill. This is where I think you can put a non-warrior character in as protagonist, by using a swashbuckler (combines the charm and stealth with skill at fighting face to face with the opponent). I would go with a blade second, but then you add the magic part in, and depending on the audience that may not fly with the protagonist.

As far as animation vs. real life:

Animation would work better. Don't forget that Middle Earth is a magic-poor world, so you really didn't see Gandalf throwing around tons of spells in the live action movie. Magic was allowed to be more subtle in the trilogy (throw opponent around, blind opponent with a bright light, summon a raging torrent of water, etc.).

However, Faerun is extremely magic rich, even by regular D&D standards. There are wizards all over the place, throwing around fireballs, etc. If you have a battle between the protagonist's group and another group, it would be spells flying back and forth, with blasts of fire, lighting bolts, magic missiles, etc. flying in both directions.

Doing all of it CGI? It would look goofy at that point. Much better (and possibly more cost effective) to do animation. Then you could take much of the same voice talent that did the game and use them as the characters' voices (they did a good job to begin with, so why tamper with something that is not broken?).

Sir Degrader 01-23-2005 09:56 AM

I agree. However, mainstream anime has yet to the have the success that regular films have. As a result, perhaps more creative license could be in line for the protagonist (putting him as a ranger) might work.

Cerek 01-23-2005 10:06 AM

<font color=plum>Those are all good points, <font color=yellow>Nerull</font>, but I disagree that the PC has to be a warrior type. The story of Robin Hood has been a constant favorite in Hollywood. Then again, that combines the rogue quality with the finesse fighting you mentioned.

Anyway, the leader doesn't necessarily have to be a buff fighter as long as one of his followers are. It's the typical "group buddy" picture. You have a primary protagonist who has some vital knowledge or skill to complete a certain quest, but he/she can't do it alone. So you're going to have to add the Big Warrior, the Fireball-slinging Wizard, and the thief character that can sneak ahead to scout, look for traps, and unlock doors (not to mention finding the occasional treasure chest to open).

So the PC could be a fighter, but not necessarily a buffed one. Or it could be a Bard - though the bard would probably be better as one of the "experts" added to the group (he would be added for his excellent knowledge of Lore - and his fighting and magic skills would make a nice supplement to the rest of the group). You also need a cleric in the group, so it would make a LOT of sense to have the PC be the cleric, then add the fighter, wizard, thief and (possibly) bard.

I agree that Minsc is almost a must-have just for his entertainment value. And you would need some demihumans (preferably an elf and a dwarf). So it could be good to add Korgan. Yoshimo might be "exotic" enough to suffice for the thief character, but you might want to take Jan instead to get the second demihuman in the group.

As for animation vs real life, my boys have been watching a video of the Spiderman series from the early 90's. That series (along with the original X-Men cartoons) were done very well and very "realistic". The characters don't have the exaggerated eyes and facial expressions so popular in anime today (I can barely stand to watch Teen Titans with the kids because of the excessive exaggeration the characters go through).

So if you go with the the type of animation of Spiderman and X-Men, that would work well.

I haven't seen the movie Sinbad, but I have plenty of other Disney animated films, and you certainly couldn't go wrong having the premier pioneers and experts of full-length animation films hired to do the Baldur's Gate movie. So somebody send Michael Eisner a copy of BG2 and ask him what he thinks of making it a film project? :D </font>

Cerek 01-23-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kestrel Daystar:
Just been scrawling through the internet and came across this picture. Now, is this not Imoen?

Alyson Hannigan is so Imoen its untrue, heheh


--Kestrel--
<font color=plum><font color=yellow>Kestrel</font> - your link doesn't work for everyone and I keep getting a pop-up window asking me to connect to the kirith website - which I really have no desire to do. Could you put the pic on another site? I have a ranchoweb account and I'll be happy to "host" the pic for you if you email it to me (or send it in a PM). Then I'll send the new link back to you. Only if you want to of course. ;) I can always just keep clicking the <font color=red>X</font> on the pop-up.</font>

Edited to remove broken web link.

[ 01-23-2005, 09:24 PM: Message edited by: Cerek ]

Balintherlas 01-23-2005 12:22 PM

Thats where that kirith thing comes from, that frickin thing pops up every 10 seconds

Illumina Drathiran'ar 01-23-2005 03:43 PM

Cerek, be a dear and edit the broken link out of your quote? We know it's there, and now it's bringing that irritating thing to this page of the thread as well.

Kestrel Daystar 01-23-2005 05:10 PM

There, I fixed it. If you wanna edit your post Cerek then it will show up properly.

Sorry about that


--Kestrel--

Jerr Conner 01-23-2005 05:15 PM

Perosnally, if we're going for a more "realistic" look in animation, then I wouldn't go with X-Men or Spiderman of the early 90's. As much as I like those two toons I wouldn't describe them as realistic. Everyone was exaggerated buff (for men) or voluptuous (for women) in those.

Also, as someone pointed out (other than me), there are anime out there without the exaggerated expressions. However, I think in a series where parts of the story get downright silly maybe exagerated expresions would work. For instance, when Edwin is being mocked for turning into a woman, I can't help but imagine a throbbing forehead vein.

LennonCook 01-23-2005 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Jimmy Joe Jamboree:
Valygar - Ice T (cool, quiet, a bit bad)
<span style="color: lightblue">Possibly a bit too dark. And his voice just is not Valygar.

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Viconia - Natasha Henstridge (painted blue, not a bad look-alike)
<span style="color: lightblue">No. Despite what the portrait looks like, blue is just wrong. A drow is not "an elf with blue skin", but "a dark elf": hence Halley Berry. It might even be argued that she isn't dark enough for the role, since alot of sources describe drow as having pitch black skin with white hair. Either way, drow aren't blue.

[ 01-23-2005, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

Illumina Drathiran'ar 01-23-2005 07:54 PM

I'm not limiting myself to a black actress for Viconia. Even if we got a black woman she'd need her skin dyed. A drow's skin is black, not dark brown. Ebon.

Cerek 01-23-2005 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
Cerek, be a dear and edit the broken link out of your quote? We know it's there, and now it's bringing that irritating thing to this page of the thread as well.
<font color=plum>Ooooooops! Sorry about that. [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I thought that the link in the quote would work in MY post once <font color=yellow>Kestrel</font> fixed it in HIS post...and I had no idea the software would automatically attempt to establish a url link when I typed the "www" dot website name. I deliberately did NOT add the "com" part in order to prevent that, but I guess the software tried to establish the link anyway.

I edited my post so it should be fixed now.</font>

Cerek 01-23-2005 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LennonCook:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jimmy Joe Jamboree:
Valygar - Ice T (cool, quiet, a bit bad)
<span style="color: lightblue">Possibly a bit too dark. And his voice just is not Valygar. </font>[/QUOTE]<font color=plum>After thinking it over some more, I think Laurence Fishburne would actually be one of the best choices for Valygar.</font>

Luvian 01-23-2005 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Degrader:
A series (anime of course) would be best, as each episode could show a quest. 2 or more would be for the major ones, and the smaller ones (fetch my illithium, boy!) would be less then one.
This remind me of the anime "Slayers".

timothy trotter 01-25-2005 02:31 AM

i reckon masaki saaki would be good for yoshimo

Balintherlas 01-26-2005 12:29 AM

Speaking of party composition, why would the movie hav to limit itself to only 6 members?

Kestrel Daystar 01-26-2005 09:15 AM

It doesn't have to its just that in the game, that is the maximum you can have so y'know. If your trying to stay true to the game then you would have a maximum of six.

I mean you go for a Lord of the Rings fellowship of nine people in the party if you wanted. It would be nice, then you could get most of your favourite NPCs in. Its a matter of preference.


--Kestrel--

Kestrel Daystar 01-26-2005 09:24 AM

I have been thinking and I thought, to play Anomen, it could be Alexis Denisof (Wesley from Angel). I just looked at him and watched him act and I think he could pull of Anomen rather well.

Also, I had a passing thought that 'The Rock' could play Jon Irenicus. Add a few scars to the face and he isnt a bad look alike. Watching the end movie from SoA made me think of The Rock. Obviously if David Warner could do voice over work, that would be great.

I also thought Kate Beckinsale did an alright Jaheira accent in Van Helsing.


--Kestrel--

Jerr Conner 01-26-2005 11:19 AM

Alexis would need to work out a bit. Anomen's strength suggessts him as being buff. But I agree, he probably could pull off Anomen.

Jimmy Joe Jamboree 01-27-2005 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LennonCook:
<span style="color: lightblue">No. Despite what the portrait looks like, blue is just wrong. A drow is not "an elf with blue skin", but "a dark elf": hence Halley Berry. It might even be argued that she isn't dark enough for the role, since alot of sources describe drow as having pitch black skin with white hair. Either way, drow aren't blue.
Sorry, my mistake. I was just making a comparison. After reading through all the previous posts I too think Halle Berry would make a better Viconia, looking at the picture done by Kestral.

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Originally posted by Kestrel Daystar:
http://img146.exs.cx/img146/9254/stormhalle5ou.jpg

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[ 01-27-2005, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: Jimmy Joe Jamboree ]

Dundee Slaytern 01-28-2005 02:28 AM

How about Claymation? ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Kestrel Daystar 01-31-2005 03:43 PM

Heheh, I can imagine Irenicus in the style of Wallace & Gromit [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]


--Kestrel--

Balintherlas 01-31-2005 06:48 PM

Sarevok is black correct, i mean he sure looks like it in tob. Also Kate Beckinsale seems way too hot to play Jaheria.

Jerr Conner 01-31-2005 09:52 PM

His paper doll isn't.


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