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Melchior 08-10-2006 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by Madman-Rogovich:
So what if you play in a covers band? and you're playing different songs every night you seriously reckon every time you can't quite work out a lick by ear you should pay the £10 for the official music?
If you're making money playing someone elses music, and you need tabs to do it, you should definitely be paying the money. It's a job. Do you expect to get your gasoline for free if you drive a taxi? Do you expect to get free wood to build houses?

It's the songwriters intellectual property, so pay them what they're due if you're going to make money off it.
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Personally If I like an artists work and I see a book of their transcriptions I will buy it as its much nicer to have a book than a printout but I'm not going to buy something for the sake of a few notes, that would be ridiculous.
Yeah it would be. So work it out by ear.
If you steal the artists work, you're not really a fan. ;)

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*edit* Decided to withdraw the argument against Tommy Emmanuel being amongst the worlds greatests guitarists, due too the off topic nature that'd no doubt ensue :D
Wise move. He's not AMONGST the worlds greatest guitarist, he IS the worlds greatest guitarist.
He's the only guitarist the late great Chet Atkins acknowledged as a worthy successor to him.

You seriously need to see the guy LIVE in concert to become a convert. I'm telling you, he does things on the guitar you'd never think possible. His reach alone, meant that he simultaneously played notes on the bottom and top strings, seven or eight frets apart. He plays solo concerts that sound like 3 guitarists, because he splits the bassline, the chords, and the melody. (He shows how he does it in concert, giving practically a music lesson in the process) Beatles songs like you've never heard.

Here's one album of his - all on one guitar. Check out the song "Train to Dusseldorf"

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...92496&s=143441

He is seriously a freak.

[ 08-10-2006, 01:22 AM: Message edited by: Melchior ]

Melchior 08-10-2006 01:32 AM

Here's some Tommy:

Angelina - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhR04kmcSXU

Beatles medely - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITt_yblSNrs - This one has some unbelievable stuff on it.

Mombasa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-PxdznWjAk

I've always thought of you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmidYDoKmOA


http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2006/06/1604.cfm

A finger-style guitarist inspired by the legendary Chet Atkins, Emmanuel can simultaneously play multiple parts, much like a pianist does with his right and left hands. His abilities resulted in Atkins labelling him c.g.p. — certified guitar player — a title that he shares with only two other men on the planet: Jerry Reed and John Knowles.

Emmanuel recorded with Atkins on 1997's Grammy Award-nominated album, The Day Finger Pickers Took Over The World. He has performed alongside such other living legends as Eric Clapton (who has called Emmanuel "probably the greatest finger-picker in the world today"), Joe Walsh, Stevie Wonder and Les Paul. His albums have received four gold and platinum certifications in Australia.

http://www.momentumeurope.com/docume...-biography.pdf

Emmanuel’s unique style — he calls it simply “finger style” — is akin to playing a guitar the way a pianist plays a piano. While Tommy has many imitators, few approach his mastery. He even has his own annual guitar festivals, “Tommy Fest,” in Newport News, Virginia, Louisville, KY and Dortmund, Germany. Jazz legend Chet Atkins was one of the first people who inspired Emmanuel to pick up a guitar. Decades later, Atkins himself became one of Emmanuel’s biggest fans, and is responsible for declaring Emmanuel a “Certified Guitar Player” — an honour shared by only two other people in the world (Jerry Reed and John Knowles). “I think he’s probably the greatest finger-picker in the world today,” Atkins said a few months prior to his death in 2001. “He’s inventive, fearless and has a flawless sense of rhythm. You can’t watch Tommy perform and not feel happy.”

“I’ve spent my whole life from the age of 4 playing music and entertaining people. I never wanted to do anything else,” says Emmanuel. “Playing the guitar is much more than a career for me. It’s a passion ... my life. The best thing in the world is to make people happy and bring them together through my music. Because I’m touring so much these days, the whole world has become my home.”

[ 08-10-2006, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: Melchior ]

JrKASperov 08-10-2006 06:33 AM

Not impressive, I've seen dozens of guitarists and bassists even who do that kind of stuff.

Don't make me mention Al of John.

Madman-Rogovich 08-10-2006 11:07 AM

The guy can play, however he is by no means anything like the greatest guitarist on the planet, not in my opinion anyway :eek:

Anyway, getting back to the topic in hand it seems the majority have voted in favour of these sites (with some wanting no part of it :D )

To be honest tho after some thought Ive begun thinking that even if all the decent tab sites are banned, will they go the way of music downloads?

I mean for a fair price it might not be so bad to get access to the official transcriptions thus benefiting those hard-done-by musicians via a program like I-tunes.

Melchior 08-10-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by JrKASperov:
Not impressive, I've seen dozens of guitarists and bassists even who do that kind of stuff.

Don't make me mention Al of John.

Yeah right! Fibber. You don't play guitar do you?

No idea....

Ever heard the term "imitator"? Plenty have imitated Emmanuel.
Did you even watch the youtube stuff?
Have you ever seen him live?

I'm astounded that after seeing all that you would post what you did.
There is no-one in the world who can do what Tommy does. Even the guys who have worked out Tommy songs and play them note for note lack his inventiveness, his freedom, his tonal control, his rhtyhmic mastery. There's a reason why Eric Clapton and Chet Atkins called him the greatest finger player alive.

Melchior 08-10-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Madman-Rogovich:
The guy can play, however he is by no means anything like the greatest guitarist on the planet, not in my opinion anyway :eek:
If you don't mind, I'll take Eric Clapton's and Chet Atkin's opinion, and what i've seen live.
I had the privelege of seeing some of the worlds best guitarists live, and I'm telling you Tommy blows them away.

JrKASperov 08-10-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Melchior:
Yeah right! Fibber. You don't play guitar do you?
I play bass.

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Ever heard the term "imitator"? Plenty have imitated Emmanuel.
Did you even watch the youtube stuff?
Have you ever seen him live?
You call Al diMeola and John McLaughlin imitators? *laughs*
Yes I watched it because you were so mad about it, it was nothing.

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I'm astounded that after seeing all that you would post what you did.
There is no-one in the world who can do what Tommy does. Even the guys who have worked out Tommy songs and play them note for note lack his inventiveness, his freedom, his tonal control, his rhtyhmic mastery. There's a reason why Eric Clapton and Chet Atkins called him the greatest finger player alive.
*You* need to get your head out of your dark place and open your mind. Somehow you have made yourself so mad about this player you're not able to imagine there are other, possibly better, guitarists.

And I absolutely laugh about calling Clapton and Atkins authorities on this field. Those are ok guitarists at best.

Seriously, open up your mind, there's more than this guy's technique, and I've seen it used a plenty.

Melchior 08-10-2006 12:38 PM

Chet Atkins, only hailed as the greatest guitarist ever by thousands of guitarists, was hardly an authority??? Unbelievable.

Well your loss buddy. Keep playing your bass. Hope you get better.

[ 08-10-2006, 12:51 PM: Message edited by: Melchior ]

Madman-Rogovich 08-10-2006 12:52 PM

Right, lessen the sour tones people :mad: dont really want the thread closed as a result of snide remarks!

back on track folks,

Melchior give Tommy a rest :D

Melchior 08-10-2006 05:55 PM

But I've moved on to Chet Atkins!

And don't get me started on Django Reinhardt!


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