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Illumina Drathiran'ar 04-11-2005 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
Lloth would win because: she doesn't have a munchkin wizard, and she doesn't have drizzt, therefore, as DM, I would fudge the rolls in her favour [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Ah, but she could have had Drizzt. It's her own damn fault that he turned away from her because she was evil. I wouldn't fudge the rolls, to teach her that her actions have consequences.

Gangrell 04-11-2005 03:32 AM

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Originally posted by Sir Goulum:
Fear? Fear of Llolth?
You really need to read the Dark Elf Trilogy.

Just because Mystra was killed doesn't mean she couldn't defeat Lolth, beings are actually able to die when they're mortal.

Jerr Conner 04-11-2005 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
Mm... If we really want a match, we should think about Lloth versus Selune. Not counting allies and enemies (because Mystra would side with Selune, and Shar would jump at the chance to fight against Selune. Then it turns into Shar against Mystra, another one for the books)
Ask and ye shall recieve.

shamrock_uk 04-11-2005 08:27 AM

Why did Helm kill Mystra? Surely Mystra is generally considered to be a 'good' deity?

Jerr Conner 04-11-2005 08:35 AM

She giggled when she saw him naked and started calling him "Transluscent Man".

[ 04-11-2005, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Jerr Conner ]

Harkoliar 04-11-2005 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
Why did Helm kill Mystra? Surely Mystra is generally considered to be a 'good' deity?
actually helm is the god of law and duty. mystra was breaking the law (no spoils there) so helm killed her out of duty (was sad in doing it as well as warning her 3 times not to break the law)

that is the most simple explanation i can give ya [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Jerr Conner 04-11-2005 11:25 AM

Helm is such a dick. Sure, he looked pained, but ohyes he was laughing inside :D

JrKASperov 04-11-2005 11:55 AM

Which god wins depends only and totally on Divine Rank. ;)

Morgeruat 04-11-2005 12:21 PM

Aye, Helm killed Mystra because she was stripped down to avatar power, while Helm still bore the power of a greater god (I believe he was still a greater god at the time).

Lolth last time I checked, was a lesser god, with the other drow gods (other than the "elder elemental god") being of equal rank or lower.

That said, it still primarily depends on where the fight is taking place. if it's in the demoweb pits, Lolth will win, in Mystra's home, it's all Mystra, On the Prime Material Plane, say Faerun, out of doors, away from their temples and followers, I would give it to Mystra, as she is greater in power and was a mortal (and thus knows all about PMS and can tap into that rage, and turn Lloth/Lolth into a chocolate bunny to appease her PMS rage).

Attalus 04-11-2005 02:39 PM

Heck, my 37th Level Paladin/Champion of Torm killed her in "The Demonweb Pits" Mod for NWN> I'm sure that Mystra wouldn't have any problems.


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