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RoSs_bg2_rox 12-21-2004 06:13 PM

No. Not if any of these organizations get their way (which is what has happened)

armageddon272 12-21-2004 06:17 PM

I never really used supernova, but i do use another BitTorrent site, i hope that one doens't shut down. That would really suck. BTW, i recently downloaded Soul Reaver 1 from torrentsearch.com. does anyone know how i can install it?

andrewas 12-21-2004 06:24 PM

We cannot discuss the distribution, or usage, of warez on these forums.

All I can suggest is to google for the file extensions your trying to use. And, run a virus scanner, your working with illegal data here, its not exactly been through strict quality control.

Animal 12-21-2004 08:16 PM

I'm sure there may be some people who still use file-sharing programs for legitimate reasons, but the majority use it for the illegal download of copyrighted materials.

Those of you who download such materials, even if you consider it a "trial" period, I'd suggest you go to work for a few weeks, then ask yourself how you'd feel when your boss decides not to pay you for your work.

Animal 12-21-2004 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrion:
I believe in file-sharing...especially music. There is too much money in the music industry anyways...and most of it ends up with people who arent really making the music...
Oh well that's okay then. Hmmm...There is too much money in banks anyways...I wonder if that could be used as a defense if you rob a bank. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

Hivetyrant 12-21-2004 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Animal:
I wonder if that could be used as a defense if you rob a bank.
Hey, Yeah!!!!
I might just get away with it now [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Rataxes 12-21-2004 08:37 PM

Animal, did you happen to take a glance at that vast investigation involving thousands of professional recording artists which showed that a majority had a positive attitude towards free and unrestricted music sharing on the net? It's made quite a buzz in the global music community.

Animal 12-21-2004 08:44 PM

Can't say as a saw that, Rataxes.

If the recording artist decides not to copyright their music, then by all means...download away.

But downloading copyrighted music (or movies/software) is no better than walking into your local music store, shoving a CD into your pocket and walking out without paying for it. It's called stealing, not sharing.

If the music industry heads towards free and unrestricted music sharing, then that's great. I'll still buy the music, that's just how I feel. However, at this time, I don't believe that's the case, so all of you who partake in such activities should be ashamed of yourselves.

LennonCook 12-21-2004 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Animal:
Can't say as a saw that, Rataxes.

If the recording artist decides not to copyright their music, then by all means...download away.

But downloading copyrighted music (or movies/software) is no better than walking into your local music store, shoving a CD into your pocket and walking out without paying for it. It's called stealing, not sharing.

If the music industry heads towards free and unrestricted music sharing, then that's great. I'll still buy the music, that's just how I feel. However, at this time, I don't believe that's the case, so all of you who partake in such activities should be ashamed of yourselves.

<span style="color: lightblue">This is true, but you forget one thing: Bittorrent can be controlled more easily than Kazaa or iMesh. The packages available on it rely on different servers... if, like the recording labels are doing here, you shut down only the ones with illegal files, what happens? The illegal sharing on BitTorrent is stopped, and BitTorrent servers operating on legitimate files only can stay. Win-Win, except for the thieves - but we don't care for them anyway. Shutting down all filesharing on Bittorrent would have adverse effects on, for example, the open-source software communities.
With iMesh and Kazaa, yes, the only way to stop the illegal is to stop the legal aswell, and shut down the entire kit and caboodle. And this is going to start happening very soon: record labels are suing Sharman networks in every country they can, for everything they can.
BitTorrent's design will not be its downfall. Kazaa's will not be its lifeline. Kazaa will die. But, as someone on Mozillazine said, so long as there are Linux distributions with limited bandwidth on their servers, Bittorrent will survive.

Rataxes 12-21-2004 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Animal:
But downloading copyrighted music (or movies/software) is no better than walking into your local music store, shoving a CD into your pocket and walking out without paying for it. It's called stealing, not sharing.

If you want to morally equate illegal music sharing with the theft of physical property then be my guest. I'm not overly concerned with philosophical questions such as that. I know I've contributed more of my money to the music society ever since I began sharing music on the net, so no, I will not be ashamed of the fact that I do not pay for every piece of music I download.


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