Ironworks Gaming Forum

Ironworks Gaming Forum (http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/index.php)
-   General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) (http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=28)
-   -   The worst crime ever? (http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85612)

Lavindathar 06-06-2002 06:49 PM

<font color="cyan">And it wont get locked as long as we keep it clean, and on topic, without spouting stupid comments that could offend or upset people.

And theoretically, a woman could rape a man. Same way a man could rape a woman. Drugs etc are a way to avert physical confrontation.
But, technically, IIRC in England, a woman cannot rape a man. This is something to do with the law doesn't recognise that a woman can rape a man. I'm not sure if this is true, but I remembered it to be.</font>

SomeGuy 06-06-2002 06:50 PM

These 5 of the worst crimes imo.

1.The Twin Towers incedent(sp?).
2.Kidnapping
3.Hacking
4.Rape *shudders*
5.Murder.

EDIT: I just thought of a sixth one.
6.Hate Crimes(Like what the kkk did.)

[ 06-06-2002, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: SomeGuy ]

Lavindathar 06-06-2002 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by andrewas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
how about the murder of 6 million jews in less than a decade ?

Thats wasnt a crime, it was an atrocity. Its in a whole different category. And no-one individual or group can be blamed for the whole problem (Not even Hitler), it was a massive operation with thousands of perpetrators.</font>[/QUOTE]well, it WAS only one guy who was in charge of the whole thing, so imo he's the one to blame.</font>[/QUOTE]Maybe , maybe not. If someone told you to jump in a fire, would you? If the nation wanted to revolt, they could have probably (i dont know this, I wasnt there). Someone close could have ended Hitlers reign, but they didn't.

A manager isn't soley responsible for a teams performance, the players must play.</font>

MagiK 06-06-2002 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
how about the murder of 6 million jews in less than a decade ?
<font color="#3399cc">That number pales in comparison to the number of murders committed by Stalin and Pol Pot. I believe Stalin's body count was around 15 million or so and Pol Pot was 2 - 3 million Sorry I got Pol Pot confused with someone else..working on the numbers now. Still 2-3 million due to the actions of a single man is significant. The Japanese Miltary is responsible for millions of rapes during World War 2 as they saw women as theirs for the taking all accross the South Pacific.</font>

[ 06-06-2002, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

Lavindathar 06-06-2002 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeGuy:
These 5 of the worst crimes imo.

1.The Twin Towers incedent(sp?).
2.Kidnapping
3.Hacking
4.Rape *shudders*
5.Murder.

EDIT: I just thought of a sixth one.
6.Hate Crimes(Like what the kkk did.)

As I have said before, nothing is worse than taking someones life, no matter how bad. At least they are alive that way.

Secondly, I dnt think the thread wanted examples, even though Johhny brought one in first. And the Twin Towers wasn't really a crime, it was a symbol of the American downfall (in the eyes of the perpetraitors(sp)). It wasn't planned to kill as many as possible, it was intended to show the Americans could be brought to their knees. Admittedly, they knew lives would be taken, but I don't think it can be classed as a crime. More an act of war.</font>

SomeGuy 06-06-2002 07:00 PM

Hmmm.You probly right Lavindather(sp?)

AliCat 06-06-2002 07:21 PM

I think pedophilia is perhaps the worst crime. Yes, murder is permanent.... but you know what? Once you are dead, you're dead. Nothing hurts you anymore. Abuse of any kind hurts a person physically, emotionally, spiritually, and mentally long beyond the end of the abusive period. Children are particularly helpless because of size, innocence, and their utter dependence on others. The abuse they suffer affects their self-image and every bit of how they relate to other people and the world. They may have problems for the rest of their lives in maintaining any relationship, but especially a sexual one. They may become abusers themselves after being systematically abused, perpetuating the cycle (which is one effect you don't get with murder). The abuse from pedophilia may, even if murder is not involved, cause irrevokable damage to the organs and prevent any chance of fertility.

Yes, people survive. But how well?

Donut 06-06-2002 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uss:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
how about the murder of 6 million jews in less than a decade ?

i dont think it really was 6 million. methinks it was less *coughpropagandacough*

but think of a crime which is done to one person.
</font>[/QUOTE]I think it WAS over six million and it WAS the greatest crime ever. And it was commited by Nazi scumbags AND we need to put these scumbags down where ever they raise their scumbag heads! Even if they are children. *coughbollockscough*

skywalker 06-06-2002 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uss:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Deathcow:
my vote goes to random murder...dunno the official term for it

rape is way up there too, but people can recover from that...murder is so...final. not many people recover from murder.

and the fact that the victim doesnt even know the attacker makes it twice as bad, imo.

yes, but the reason of random murder is that the attacker is crazy or something, the reason of raping is a persons personal desire for sex.</font>[/QUOTE]Sorry I disagree. Rape is mostly considered a crime of violence.

Mark

Talthyr Malkaviel 06-06-2002 07:40 PM

Hmm, Uss, first off, does it really matter if it was or wasn't 6 million?
There are so many different reports, that's one of the disturbing parts of the holocaust, no-one knows exactly how many died, some say near a million, other's go up to 20 million or more, and if you're going to throw the word propaganda around, how about some other propaganda that's been spouted by some people of the past.

<UL><LI>We true breds are a separate race called Aryans, and we are superior to all others on this earth.
<LI>Homosexuals, jews, disabled people and the mentally unstable should be killed.
<LI>It is the right thing to do, a duty to our country to take over Poland etc.
<UL>
Sound familiar to you?


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:00 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2024 Ironworks Gaming & ©2024 The Great Escape Studios TM - All Rights Reserved