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Kakero 06-21-2002 10:43 PM

emmm..is he part of the baseball team? if yes, then do this, when it's your turn to throw the ball. you can "accidentally" throw the ball at him, make it 100mph. ;)

two, when it your turn to hit the ball, hit the ball straight at him or " accidentally " throw the bat right at him. you can always say " opps, I slipped! " ;)

The Hunter of Jahanna 06-21-2002 10:56 PM

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Hunter, why do you suggest violence that might end badly for him as well as mark him as a prime target for revenge? Violence breeds violence, an eye for an eye makes everyone blind.

Plus, "mom jokes" are more likely to get him stabbed, punched or pushed into oncoming traffic than to make the bully stop.
Well , Neb when I was a wee nipper I was bullied a lot. I found that the only way to make it stop was to do something that realy hurt the bullie badly. Eventualy after a few kids had to be carried to the nure I was left alone. If someguy gives this guy a good smack in the head now , it might make thing easier for him later.

As for mom jokes getting some one stabbed or shot?? That is COMPLETELY crazy!! If you are going to stab someone over a mom joke then you deserve to go to jail for a very very long time.

Some Guy , if this kids parents are the coaches then can you get on another team??

Neb 06-21-2002 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna:
Well , Neb when I was a wee nipper I was bullied a lot. I found that the only way to make it stop was to do something that realy hurt the bullie badly. Eventualy after a few kids had to be carried to the nure I was left alone. If someguy gives this guy a good smack in the head now , it might make thing easier for him later.

As for mom jokes getting some one stabbed or shot?? That is COMPLETELY crazy!! If you are going to stab someone over a mom joke then you deserve to go to jail for a very very long time.

Some Guy , if this kids parents are the coaches then can you get on another team??

Well, Hunter, I AM a kid and I WAS bullied a lot. I got rid of it the peaceful way, by ignoring it and just turning the other cheek. Eventually they got tired of annoying me and left me alone. And if he gives him a good smack in the head now he might get one back later, or something worse, trust me, some people are REALLY messed up.

Trust me on the jokes, Hunter, like I said, some people are seriously crazy. There ARE some people who would stab or shoot you just for looking at them wrong, you never know how psycho someone really is till you do the wrong thing..... Anyway, just ignoring him is much safer.

johnny 06-21-2002 11:36 PM

Neb, you must have gone through a lot of scary moments in your youth, considdering the way you dealt with bullies. I agree with Hunter of Jahanna here, once you let them slap you, they'll do it again and again. You say you got away with it your way, i say that's pretty unique. Normally they stay around longer than you wish. Everyone has encountered a bully once or twice in his lifetime and turning the other cheak is not the right way in my opinion. Back in highschool i had to deal with a guy who was just too big for me. In a fair fight i was no match for him. Does that mean i have to avoid him for as long i'm a student at that school. I decided otherwise and waited for my chance, when it came i had a big stick and gave him a beating he probably still has nightmares about. I'm not saying this to bragg or anything, but sometimes you gotta make a stand, nobody at school ever messed with me again.

caleb 06-22-2002 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Neb:
Hunter, why do you suggest violence that might end badly for him as well as mark him as a prime target for revenge? Violence breeds violence, an eye for an eye makes everyone blind.
Like I said if you give em a good fight they will eventually leave you alone. You gotta remember not everyone believes in karma or the three fold reed ;)

the new JR Jansen 06-22-2002 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Hunter, why do you suggest violence that might end badly for him as well as mark him as a prime target for revenge? Violence breeds violence, an eye for an eye makes everyone blind.

Plus, "mom jokes" are more likely to get him stabbed, punched or pushed into oncoming traffic than to make the bully stop.

Well , Neb when I was a wee nipper I was bullied a lot. I found that the only way to make it stop was to do something that realy hurt the bullie badly. Eventualy after a few kids had to be carried to the nure I was left alone. If someguy gives this guy a good smack in the head now , it might make thing easier for him later.</font>[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is that in fighting a bully, you stooped to their level and became one yourself ? You must be really proud :rolleyes: .

caleb 06-22-2002 06:17 AM

Yes how dare he fight back.

Sir ReGiN 06-22-2002 07:55 AM

I say go for it. Either you win and you will feel very good and brave and manly about it. Or you lose, in which case you might end up in intensive care or just a couple of bruises. A fight isn't the end of the world, at least when you're eleven it isn't.

Glorfindel 06-22-2002 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by the new JR Jansen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Hunter, why do you suggest violence that might end badly for him as well as mark him as a prime target for revenge? Violence breeds violence, an eye for an eye makes everyone blind.

Plus, "mom jokes" are more likely to get him stabbed, punched or pushed into oncoming traffic than to make the bully stop.

Well , Neb when I was a wee nipper I was bullied a lot. I found that the only way to make it stop was to do something that realy hurt the bullie badly. Eventualy after a few kids had to be carried to the nure I was left alone. If someguy gives this guy a good smack in the head now , it might make thing easier for him later.</font>[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is that in fighting a bully, you stooped to their level and became one yourself ? You must be really proud :rolleyes: .</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="lawngreen" face="trebuchet MS">Are you a teen JR? Believe me... no matter what teachers or adults try to teach you... telling people to stop will not gain you any respect from them... nor make them stop.... and telling on them to a teacher will just make things worse... because then other people will lose their respect for you.... now I cant say that that IS the way it is everywhere at schools... but at my school it is... I know... It hasnt happened to me... but I have seen it happen all to many times.... When you are in a situation like this you only really have a few choices...

You can ask them to stop... but the bully plain and simply WONT, unless they arent truly bullying you.. and they were just having a joke.. on which case all is better...

You can ignore it but they will continue.. and it hurts more because your just standing there and letting it happen to yourself, but on some few occasions this actually works... and they leave you alone...

You can have a go back at them verbally, which isnt the sort of thing that happens when your 11 years old.. well it never did 4 years ago for me [img]tongue.gif[/img] .. but when you do its pretty well alot of swearing and having a go at each other... which is usually the most painless way... but very messy and your bound to get in trouble for it... and unfortunately it doesnt always stop the bullying.

You can fight them... which is IMO ALWAYS a last resort... this is always painful if it actually gets into a fight... but more than once has bullying stopped at my skool from someone giving them a solid wake in the nose... but unfortunately this sometimes turns into a fight... then everybody gets in trouble and hurt.... but this has always stopped the bullying AFAIK.

Or you can tell a teacher... which is always IMO the worst thing to do.... It plain and simply makes the bully loathe you and they might stop from bullying you to your face... but they begin to sway other peoples opinions of you... and unfortunately by doing this you lose the respect of many of your skool mates...

Now I dont want to advise that you hit the bully or you have a go at them... even though I believe they are the most effective.... but If you do choose to tell a teacher I hope for you that because you are only 11 that your friends and peers wont go against you because of it.... and if you do tell a teacher... ask them to catch the bully out while they are doing it... ask them to make as sure as possible that it looks like you didnt say a word to them and they just saw the bullying going on.... because it would be horrible for you to lose many of your peers respect over telling on a bully :( .</font>

dizzy 06-22-2002 08:24 AM

Trying to take him down may be the only reason to show this guy that he has gone too far, you might not win, but he might respect you for finally standing up for yourself, I would at least.


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