Would 6 months mere probation deter from taking another possibly more forceful shot later in her life?
I think 6 months in a detention center, with the knowledge of what she faces in an adult prison ought to clue her in. To know that she is facing 30 years, 6 months should be a relief!
If she had hit him with brass knuckles or stabbed him, would it be the same because of her age?
I was 16 once and I remember being old enough to know I was responsible for my actions. I probably would have done it myself. [img]smile.gif[/img]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Donut:

...They are the figurehead of the country rather than of the government. They certainly have no power - we fought a Civil War to achieve that....<hr></blockquote>

Sorry Donut, but you are wrong there. You need to study our constitution a little more. The queen still retains some impressive powers which, amongst other things, include:
a) the unilateral right to suspend/dissolve parliament
b) the right to 'fire' the prime mininster
c) the right to refuse a newly elected prime minister his office
d) the right to grant a pardon for all crimes (including treason)
etc. etc. etc...

The monarchy still has a lot of serious powers. Simply because they havn't been exercised for a long time does not mean that they don't exist...

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Skunk:


Sorry Donut, but you are wrong there. You need to study our constitution a little more. The queen still retains some impressive powers which, amongst other things, include:
a) the unilateral right to suspend/dissolve parliament
b) the right to 'fire' the prime mininster
c) the right to refuse a newly elected prime minister his office
d) the right to grant a pardon for all crimes (including treason)
etc. etc. etc...

The monarchy still has a lot of serious powers. Simply because they havn't been exercised for a long time does not mean that they don't exist...<hr></blockquote>

She may have these powers but if she ever tried to exercise any one of them she would be sacked.

A quick update. The girl has been now been charged with the lesser charge of hooliganism following a personal appeal from Charlie. She now faces a sentence of two years if found guilty.

I posted this in another thread but I think the following comment sums it up. Found it in a very odd magazine:

Latvian president has accused the girl of being mentally unstable. In the bad old days of Latvia dissidents would be locked away and declared to be suffering from mental illness. Lebedyeva is facing a 15 year prison sentence. Funny how things turn out.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Donut:
A quick update. The girl has been now been charged with the lesser charge of hooliganism following a personal appeal from Charlie. She now faces a sentence of two years if found guilty.<hr></blockquote>


Glad to see Prince Charles did the right thing.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:



Glad to see Prince Charles did the right thing.<hr></blockquote>

Well of course he did - it's all in breeding you know ;)

Here's an update on the 15 year old Latvian girl who "carnationed" Prince Charles.

After his request for leniency, she won't be charge with anything, but could face disciplinary measures. I didn't want her to go to jail for 15 years, which she faced on the charge of assaulting a foreign dignitary, but I certainly hope she doesn't go unpunished.

Full Story from The Guardian.

Saturday December 15, 2001 2:17 PM

A Latvian teenager who slapped the Prince of Wales across the cheek with a carnation will not be charged with assault.

Sixteen-year-old Alina Lebedeva lurched at Prince Charles with a bunch of flowers during his recent visit to the Baltic state.

She was arrested and spent three days in custody before being released to her parents.

Alina had been shouting her opposition to the war in Afghanistan and to Latvia joining Nato. Police said she might be charged with assaulting a foreign dignitary, which carries a sentence of up to 15 years in jail.

Prince Charles made a plea for lenience.

The Latvian president, Vaira Vike-Freiberga, who was with the prince in Riga at the time, immediately apologised. Lebedeva and her family also sent letters of apology to Prince Charles.

A spokesman for the Latvian prosecutor general's office said the teenager would not be charged, although she could still face disciplinary action.

Sanctions she could face include being sent to a special reform school.

This is the kind of thing that really gets me. People inspired to act out, but not inspired to act out using reason. What did Charles have to do with Afghanistan or NATO?

I can't believe you seriously want a young girl punished when she obviously did not have a full understanding of what she was doing. She was trying to make an anti-war statement by showing her disgust for a symbol of Britain, not trying to hurt olf charli boy. I'm sure most of us British found it pretty funny anyway.

And by the way Donut, there is only one club in north London....Enfield. I hope you follow the ryman league as coming from Aldershot I enjoy watching them beat Enfield on a regular basis.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Smeagol:
I can't believe you seriously want a young girl punished when she obviously did not have a full understanding of what she was doing. She was trying to make an anti-war statement by showing her disgust for a symbol of Britain, not trying to hurt olf charli boy. I'm sure most of us British found it pretty funny anyway.

And by the way Donut, there is only one club in north London....Enfield. I hope you follow the ryman league as coming from Aldershot I enjoy watching them beat Enfield on a regular basis.<hr></blockquote>

I can't believe you wouldn't want someone punished for assault. Just because someone has a cause doesn't mean they can do anything they want. What if she wanted to make a point by slapping your mother? Would that be ok?

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